Powder suggestions for 6.5 Creedmoor

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Powder suggestions for 6.5 Creedmoor

Post by 65Hitmoor » 30 May 2021, 4:35 pm

Gday,
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I have been using Hornady Precision Hunters and Sellier & Belott since purchasing the Lithgow LA102 6.5 Creedmoor a little over a year ago. Both rounds shoot great out of this rifle but now it’s time to start reloading so just chasing a few suggestions to get the ball rolling.
About 30 years out of the shooting community has me back at square one. I used to shoot Roos full time many moons ago and was up on all the reloading stuff and now it’s time to start again. Life style changes have me back out hunting and enjoying shooting again.

I was planning on using the Hornady 143gr ELD-X projectiles just because they perform well in the factory ammo. However like a lot of ammunition and supplies they are as scarce as unicorns at the moment.
My local shooting supplies (700 km away) has suggested (due to that’s all they have at the moment) the Nosler 140gr Ballistics and the Sierra 130gr Gameking.
They also suggested the ADI 2209 powder I was chasing might not be the best choice for the 6.5 using these projectiles.
I asked for a recommendation but was told to check out the load data for each projectile and make up my own mind.
I have , and it appears to me I can use ADI 2209 using/ assuming the H4350 listed on the data as a close equivalent powder
However that still doesn’t make it the best or better powder to use I guess.
They have RE 17 in stock so looking at using that as well in comparison against the 2209. Also trying not to spend a million $ trying to work out a powder/projectile combo.



So the rifle is used only for hunting with aprox 300 metres being max distance for shots on wild dogs/dingos.
I do drop a few pigs with the 6.5 but generally I hunt them with two bailing dogs and the little 22 magnum.

Has anyone on this forum had any experience with theses projectiles and powder or similar?
Just chasing ideas and suggestions from experienced shooters.

I try not to overthink things and make it more complicated then it has to be but at the same time I have this inner drive that always has to make things work to it’s best potential.
I’m shooting dogs not paper targets so I’m chasing the best accuracy for distance shots for ethical kills out 300. 300 metres shots are like two a year. Inside 150 every other weekend.

Thanks for any help
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Re: Powder suggestions for 6.5 Creedmoor

Post by Oldbloke » 30 May 2021, 7:09 pm

No experience with the 6.5 creedmore. But you really can't go wrong with 2206H or 2208.
Both are incredibly versatile and used for many, many chamberings.

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Post by bladeracer » 30 May 2021, 7:24 pm

AR2209 does look like a good choice, but I prefer AR2206H or AR2208 myself.

65Hitmoor wrote:Gday,
New kid on the block and first time post.
I have been using Hornady Precision Hunters and Sellier & Belott since purchasing the Lithgow LA102 6.5 Creedmoor a little over a year ago. Both rounds shoot great out of this rifle but now it’s time to start reloading so just chasing a few suggestions to get the ball rolling.
About 30 years out of the shooting community has me back at square one. I used to shoot Roos full time many moons ago and was up on all the reloading stuff and now it’s time to start again. Life style changes have me back out hunting and enjoying shooting again.

I was planning on using the Hornady 143gr ELD-X projectiles just because they perform well in the factory ammo. However like a lot of ammunition and supplies they are as scarce as unicorns at the moment.
My local shooting supplies (700 km away) has suggested (due to that’s all they have at the moment) the Nosler 140gr Ballistics and the Sierra 130gr Gameking.
They also suggested the ADI 2209 powder I was chasing might not be the best choice for the 6.5 using these projectiles.
I asked for a recommendation but was told to check out the load data for each projectile and make up my own mind.
I have , and it appears to me I can use ADI 2209 using/ assuming the H4350 listed on the data as a close equivalent powder
However that still doesn’t make it the best or better powder to use I guess.
They have RE 17 in stock so looking at using that as well in comparison against the 2209. Also trying not to spend a million $ trying to work out a powder/projectile combo.



So the rifle is used only for hunting with aprox 300 metres being max distance for shots on wild dogs/dingos.
I do drop a few pigs with the 6.5 but generally I hunt them with two bailing dogs and the little 22 magnum.

Has anyone on this forum had any experience with theses projectiles and powder or similar?
Just chasing ideas and suggestions from experienced shooters.

I try not to overthink things and make it more complicated then it has to be but at the same time I have this inner drive that always has to make things work to it’s best potential.
I’m shooting dogs not paper targets so I’m chasing the best accuracy for distance shots for ethical kills out 300. 300 metres shots are like two a year. Inside 150 every other weekend.

Thanks for any help
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Post by 65Hitmoor » 30 May 2021, 7:25 pm

Thanks Oldbloke
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Post by Bottleshock » 30 May 2021, 7:38 pm

I have a Tikka T3x TAC A1 in 6.5 CRD and have spent many many hours working up loads using 2209, 2208 and 2206H. My best load by far up to 300 metres ia a 130 grain ELD Match in front of 41.2 grains of AR2209 and beyond that 147 ELD Match pushed along by 42 grains of AR2209. I'm not a hunter so not sure how fit for purpose these projectiles would be for you needs but they put a decent dent in steel plates at 800 metres.
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Post by 65Hitmoor » 30 May 2021, 8:20 pm

Thanks for the reply Bottleshock. Think I may just bite the bullet and get both 2209 and 2206H to compare with the 130 and 140 gr projectiles through the Lithgow.
Great to hear feed back from a Creedmoor shooter thanks.
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Post by Phil Lawlor » 31 May 2021, 8:33 am

I have conducted a bit of load development for my Ruger Precision over the last 4 or 5 months. My preferred load combination for my rifle is. Hornady 140g ELD-M projectiles, 40grains of 2209, CCI BR 400 primers and Starline nickel coated brass. Zeroed at 100mtrs, 5 round groups @ 100mtrs all under 1/2inch off the bench. My mate has the exact same rifle, same brand and weight projectiles and very similar grouping but runs 41.5grains of 2209. I prefer to find the first acceptable node and refine from there. I have used this same load combination on a couple of good chital stags recently as well. It dropped them on the spot at out around the 180 to 200mtrs. My 2 bobs worth.
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Re: Powder suggestions for 6.5 Creedmoor

Post by JimTom » 31 May 2021, 8:46 am

Mate I run 2209 in my Creedmoor for the 143 ELDX and they shoot like a champion. I run 2206H for the light projectiles.
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Post by Gamerancher » 31 May 2021, 8:58 am

2206H works well in my 6.5 CM with 107 to 130gr bullets. I use 2209 behind 140 - 147gr ELD-M's for 500m targets. My barrel has a 1 in 7.5" twist rate. The Hornady ELD-X is the hunting version.
Given the application, i.e., dogs @ 300m or less, I can't see why the Gamekings wouldn't work if that is what you can get. I always got good results with them on live game.
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Post by in2anity » 31 May 2021, 11:33 am

For a 130gr, around the AR2206H / AR2208 is about right. I'd be leaning more toward AR2208 for a 143gr, and certainly AR2209 will work for a 143gr, AR2209 would in fact be "safer" due to case fill, if that means anything.
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Re: Powder suggestions for 6.5 Creedmoor

Post by 65Hitmoor » 31 May 2021, 7:00 pm

Thanks for all the replies, pretty sure I’ll get both 2209 and 2206H and do what all of you have done and spend some time finding out what the rifle likes with the projectiles I can purchase.
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Post by Bello » 01 Jun 2021, 9:53 am

Hi Mate
I have used AR2209 with the Hornady 143gr and 147gr projectiles.
Works fine for me.
Most of the people I have spoken with, agree the AR2209 works well with the 6.5 Creedmoor.
Best of luck :thumbsup:
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Re: Powder suggestions for 6.5 Creedmoor

Post by bigpete » 01 Jun 2021, 3:08 pm

Glitter or foundation
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Re: Powder suggestions for 6.5 Creedmoor

Post by JimTom » 03 Jun 2021, 9:54 am

bigpete wrote:Glitter or foundation


Don’t be a hater just because you don’t have one.
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Re: Powder suggestions for 6.5 Creedmoor

Post by 65Hitmoor » 03 Jun 2021, 4:59 pm

I was waiting for the replies from the Creedmoor haters JimTom. :D That’s the reason I called myself 65Hitmoor. Been on other sites when I was researching the Creedmoor where it’s a full time sport bagging the caliber.

So for your information bigpete the glitter works fine on the dogs but you need some decent foundation on the pigs.
I run fairy dust in the 22 Magnum but a long shot is only 10 metres so velocity isn’t really a consideration just shot placement
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Post by JimTom » 03 Jun 2021, 5:48 pm

Haha yep no shortage of Creedmoor haters on here mate. People with a fear of change and the benefits it may bring. It can’t possible be as good as a 6.5x55 as it’s only been around for ten years or so. :sarcasm:
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