Oldbloke wrote:With 45-70, do they really need to expand? Lol
Blr243 wrote:I reckon they do ob . If I end up buying a .7 cal musket I’ll prob still be chaseing the flatted disc result. Here’s a pic of the diameter improvement mine vs shop Bullets
Oldbloke wrote:With 45-70, do they really need to expand? Lol
Blr243 wrote:If I get a musket or blackpowder or whatever it’s gotta be rifled, and have a set of sights. To me a smooth bore is just goin to be too inaccurate in the bush. I looked at one online the other day it had just a front blade no rear sight , I don’t think I could hunt with that.
Blr243 wrote:I got to thinking the other day how does one properly clean the barrel / chamber of a muzzle loader. How the bloody hell do u clean way down the bottom of a hole when u can’t break or open the action
Noisydad wrote:Blr243 wrote:I got to thinking the other day how does one properly clean the barrel / chamber of a muzzle loader. How the bloody hell do u clean way down the bottom of a hole when u can’t break or open the action
It’s easy. You remove the barrel, unscrew the nipple and put the breech end in a bucket of Luke warm soapy water. Use a long cleaning rod with a correct size jag wrapped with a cleaning patch and start pumping water up and down the barrel. Rinse with clean water and dry the barrel and run an oily patch through.
Took longer to write this than clean a barrel.
bigrich wrote:i've been looking into this lead slinging thing lately . i have a 44 mag marlin on the way . been looking on "cast boolits" US forum . yanks in the know are ditching the factory marlin 1-38 microgroove barrels for 1-20 rifled barrels and pushing 300 grain plus soft lead projectiles at 1300-1400 fps . the 45-70 pushes 405 grain projectiles at around the same fps and are reknowned for penetration and energy transfer . the 44mag isn't far behind in a much smaller package . food for thought
LawrenceA wrote:bigrich wrote:i've been looking into this lead slinging thing lately . i have a 44 mag marlin on the way . been looking on "cast boolits" US forum . yanks in the know are ditching the factory marlin 1-38 microgroove barrels for 1-20 rifled barrels and pushing 300 grain plus soft lead projectiles at 1300-1400 fps . the 45-70 pushes 405 grain projectiles at around the same fps and are reknowned for penetration and energy transfer . the 44mag isn't far behind in a much smaller package . food for thought
I haunt Castboolits myself.
It is true the 44-40, 44mag and 45 Long colt can be loaded up pretty close to a mild 45-70 load when using light bullets.
Just like a 22 Hornet ain't far behind a 222 with 40 grainers and just like the 45-70 is close to the 458 win mag with 400 grainers
Try pushing a 405 or 500 grain pill out a 44 mag and you find the difference.
Actually a 44-40 will out perform a 44 mag if you reload.
I suppose it is the 45-70 does it easy and without much pressure or stress.
Bit like a V8 is more appealing to me than a rotary.
bigrich wrote:LawrenceA wrote:bigrich wrote:i've been looking into this lead slinging thing lately . i have a 44 mag marlin on the way . been looking on "cast boolits" US forum . yanks in the know are ditching the factory marlin 1-38 microgroove barrels for 1-20 rifled barrels and pushing 300 grain plus soft lead projectiles at 1300-1400 fps . the 45-70 pushes 405 grain projectiles at around the same fps and are reknowned for penetration and energy transfer . the 44mag isn't far behind in a much smaller package . food for thought
I haunt Castboolits myself.
It is true the 44-40, 44mag and 45 Long colt can be loaded up pretty close to a mild 45-70 load when using light bullets.
Just like a 22 Hornet ain't far behind a 222 with 40 grainers and just like the 45-70 is close to the 458 win mag with 400 grainers
Try pushing a 405 or 500 grain pill out a 44 mag and you find the difference.
Actually a 44-40 will out perform a 44 mag if you reload.
I suppose it is the 45-70 does it easy and without much pressure or stress.
Bit like a V8 is more appealing to me than a rotary.
i agree with all you 've said . however , if i can push a 300 grain soft cast slug at 1300fps out of a marlin 44 that's a lot of cast firepower out of a compact package for not a lot of powder . the big difference between 44mag and 44-40 is case life. 44-40 are known for rim/case seperation when pushed hard . 44 mag has good case life and availability. i even looked into 38-55 as a option , but variations in chamber specs and brass put me off that
Blr243 wrote:Hornady nosler and sierra make 300 grain Bullets for 44 cal. And CBE make moulds between 260-440 Grains for cast lead Bullets ...but not sure if they will fit into a 44 mag case or if it’s safe
Blr243 wrote:My home cast 405 4570 Bullets are 98 roof flashing and 2 parts tin. At 1200 FPS in a new marlin 1895 , do I have to lube or powder coat Bullets in order to prevent leading ? Or can I try dry ? ...only lube I have is CBE in a little bottle so I guess it’s very easy and quick to tumble lube them in a plastic container