Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by deye243 » 05 Feb 2015, 10:46 pm

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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Bills Shed » 06 Feb 2015, 6:52 am

deye243 wrote:does anyone know if Citric acid is as good as lemi shine


As a swager of projectiles I do lots of cleaning of old brass to make jackets. If you want to get into all the guts of cleaning brass with off the shelf products have a look at "Cast Boolits"(spelt just like that).

There are whole forums on the topic. All are relevant to what you want.

In short citric acid is lemon shine. Remember it is an acid in powder form. When finished you need to rinse the brass well. Citric acid, some dish washing liquid and a little salt + your stainless pin and you will have better than factory brass.

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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by balter » 06 Feb 2015, 9:18 am

Bills Shed wrote:As a swager of projectiles I do lots of cleaning of old brass to make jackets.


How long does it take you start to finish to make a bullet like that you reckon?
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Bills Shed » 06 Feb 2015, 8:15 pm

balter wrote:
Bills Shed wrote:As a swager of projectiles I do lots of cleaning of old brass to make jackets.


How long does it take you start to finish to make a bullet like that you reckon?


I make .224 projectiles out of .22LR cases. You do not make one projectile at a time but make batches of 500 or so. Each step only takes seconds. The cleaning probably takes the longest. I would estimate that each pill takes less than a minute to produce. The cleaning is a very important part of the whole process, as any crud left in the case will lead the poor accuracy.

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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by balter » 08 Feb 2015, 3:06 pm

Bills Shed wrote:I would estimate that each pill takes less than a minute to produce.


Cool mate. Interesting to know.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Josh Smith » 09 Feb 2015, 4:24 am

Don't you all have rock polishing tumblers down that way?

That's what I use.

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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Yelp » 09 Feb 2015, 10:10 am

Josh Smith wrote:Don't you all have rock polishing tumblers down that way?


Standard media tumbler is what 99% of shooters are using here from what I see.

We have them though of course.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by deye243 » 09 Feb 2015, 11:33 pm

Josh Smith wrote:Don't you all have rock polishing tumblers down that way?

That's what I use.

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yep but i aint gunna pay $430us for one that only handles 15lb to 17lb so i'm making one that will handle 40+lb
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Jack V » 10 Feb 2015, 9:37 am

If you want to go heavy duty tumbler without building too much an old electric concrete mixer works very well , with a large barrel stuck inside it and lay the barrel over to the right angle held by a chain .
If you could find a cheap second hand one that is.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by deye243 » 10 Feb 2015, 12:34 pm

yep i looked at that very idea but i want it inside as i don't have a shed
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Tonit » 10 Feb 2015, 1:38 pm

C'mon, the wife won't mind an old cement mixer rumbling along in the spare room will she? :lol:
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Jack V » 11 Feb 2015, 7:01 pm

Inside the house may be difficult .
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by KWhorenet » 11 Feb 2015, 7:09 pm

Would placing brass and pins in a sturdy zipped up bag and chucking the top loader washing machine do a good enough job at cleaning?
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Jack V » 11 Feb 2015, 7:17 pm

Sounds very risky , if the bag split or came undone the washing machine may be damaged severely.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by KWhorenet » 11 Feb 2015, 7:23 pm

Jack V wrote:Sounds very risky , if the bag split or came undone the washing machine may be damaged severely.


true, just a thought. I have a Lortone QT12 I bought while the exchange rate was on par so not too out of pocket for the long term.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Lorgar » 13 Feb 2015, 9:55 am

KWhorenet wrote:Would placing brass and pins in a sturdy zipped up bag and chucking the top loader washing machine do a good enough job at cleaning?


You've got me thinking....

I dunno about a regular plastic bag, I suspect the pins pierce the bag like Jack suggested, but I think the idea has legs.

I can see it working in a hard container like a lunchbox or something, maybe tied inside a shirt to project the drum of you washer from the hard container.

I think I'll give it a whirl and see what happens...
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Oldbloke » 13 Feb 2015, 11:47 am

Have u seen this. Don't tell the Mrs. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF5B6DkxXH8

I was tempted to try the same idea but in a tumble dryer with a hand full of media, even saw dust or rice? But I was chicken & got a cheap ultrasonic cleaner on ebay.
I only do say 40 cases at a time so it does the job. I would like to hear the out come if anyone tries it
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by KWhorenet » 13 Feb 2015, 3:14 pm

Lorgar wrote:
KWhorenet wrote:Would placing brass and pins in a sturdy zipped up bag and chucking the top loader washing machine do a good enough job at cleaning?


You've got me thinking....

I dunno about a regular plastic bag, I suspect the pins pierce the bag like Jack suggested, but I think the idea has legs.




When I say zipped bag I envisaged heavy material with a real zip, not ziplock plastic :lol: .

Maybe made of denim or canvas with wide HD Velcro stitched on holding it closed or tied off with rope. Easily worked out.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by pracshooter » 13 Feb 2015, 8:55 pm

Pins in a bag would be a complete waste of time. Cleaning takes place by a waterfall effect of brass and pins tumbling off the sides of the container and rubbing in the process. Pins are going to nothing inside a bag, except clunk a lot.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by KWhorenet » 14 Feb 2015, 4:03 am

pracshooter wrote:Pins in a bag would be a complete waste of time. Cleaning takes place by a waterfall effect of brass and pins tumbling off the sides of the container and rubbing in the process. Pins are going to nothing inside a bag, except clunk a lot.


Fair points but 'clunk allot' ? I cant see that happening . The material bag I mentioned would be full of water in a washing machine, getting agitated as a top loader does.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by deye243 » 14 Feb 2015, 1:09 pm

yeh but since when does a front load washer run for 3 hours or more
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by KWhorenet » 14 Feb 2015, 1:57 pm

deye243 wrote:yeh but since when does a front load washer run for 3 hours or more


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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by deye243 » 14 Feb 2015, 2:37 pm

why so defensive , grow up a bit it was not a personal attack it is what's called constructive criticism



edit did someone deleted a post

edit 2 now i will apologise as you said a top loader not front but the comment still stands :D
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by KWhorenet » 14 Feb 2015, 2:44 pm

deye243 wrote:why so defensive , grow up a bit it was not a personal attack it is what's called constructive criticism



edit did someone deleted a post


I edited it before as it was as you put it.

When you start with "Since when does a.." I took that as a smart arse comment not constructive. I never mentioned using a front loader nor washing for 3 hours. My suggestion was for a simple clean not to polish brass all shiny. Some people don't want to drop hundreds on a cleaner.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by lowb » 15 Feb 2015, 7:38 pm

Might clean the brass fine, do you want that fouling and other chemicals from shooting on your clothes though?

Just occurs to me might not be great for your skin?
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Oldbloke » 15 Feb 2015, 8:37 pm

The final rinse would remove the last of the contaminants
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by Jack V » 16 Feb 2015, 10:39 am

If you don't let your cases get real dirty then you don't need a tumbler . Washing them in CLR and warm water will get all the patina and grime off . Then rinse twice in quite hot water and dry in Sun or hair dryer or very low oven with the door left open . No heat guns either.
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Re: Taking a tumble into brass cleaners

Post by lowb » 18 Feb 2015, 10:51 am

Oldbloke wrote:The final rinse would remove the last of the contaminants


Hmmm. It all washes away that easily you reckon?

Not saying you're wrong, just being cautious. You know how these kind of things in tiny doses turn out to be bad for you 20 years later...
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