Danny wrote:For reduced loads I'd be looking at using 2206h which can have a lower charge weight than starting load. Or trailboss. I think 2205 would be too fast to successfully reduce too much
wildcard6 wrote:For many years, before I got a .308, I used a .270 for shooting centrefire metallic silhouettes at my local gun club. We shot them at 50, 100, 150 and 200 meters, so most people used cast lead bullets, but that wasn't an option for the .270 without casting my own, which I had no interest in doing. I used four different loads for the different ranges; the first three used Trail Boss [12, 14, 17 grains respectively], but I found I couldn't knock down the Rams at 200m with T/B so I used 18-grains of AR2205 behind [jacketed] bullets in the 150 - 165 grain range and it worked well. There was a big BOOM when it fired, but muzzle velocity was only around 1800 fps and had the desired effect at 200m without causing any damage to the targets.
Now that I've got a .308 I'm using cast lead bullets myself, but I know someone who is getting in to the game but doesn't want to shoot lead bullets, because they're much fiddlier to reload than jacketed bullets and I'm hoping someone has sussed out a load for a reduced load for .308 using AR2205 powder that my mate can use? I hope to hear from someone who HAS USED A SAFE LOAD in this caliber with this powder. Please let me know if you have. Thanks.
bladeracer wrote:[
Don't bother with AR2205 behind heavy bullets. Use Trailboss or AR2206H.
disco stu wrote:bladeracer wrote:[
Don't bother with AR2205 behind heavy bullets. Use Trailboss or AR2206H.
Why do you say that? Genuine question trying to learn this stuff, not arguing.
wildcard6 wrote:I appreciate everyone's input, although you might have missed my reference to my having used - very successfully - AR2205 for YEARS in my .270 using up to 165-grain bullets. I didn't use any filler at all and accuracy was excellent, so no pressure variation to speak of. The point of using '05 was to reduce bullet velocity to the point where it is safe to use a .308 on the Ram target at only 200 meters. I'm personally using 24-grains of 2206H behind 190-grain cast lead bullets, but I'm worried that jacketed bullets might be too fast using the 60% formula suggested [of which I am well aware].
One good point raised of course is the lack of availability of 2205 and Trail Boss and this might be the determining factor in this quest. I'll try the reduced load of '06H with 130 and 155-grain bullets and test them on a swinger to see what damage they do. Thanks all. Wildcard out.
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