reloading 30-06

[Bello]

Hi all
I want to reload for my 30-06. 1-11 twist
I was thinking of 165gr (Partitions)
AR2209.

My 223 used 55gr V-max
My walk about 308 used 135gr
My heavier 308 uses 160gr interlocks
My 300WM uses180gr interlock

The gun will be used for general hunting in NSW, so that excludes Buffalo and T-Rex

What say you

[deye243]

In my 06 I used 55.5g of 09 for just on 2800fps but that was a cup and core pill so this might be a bit warm .

[Bello]

Hi Mate
what weight pill are you using
What brand pills are you using, what have you used them on and what results did you get
Thanks

[Oldbloke]

Here are my loads. Both pretty mild. I just use AR2208 for everything. Works. LOL Velocity is an estimate only.

Both are 0.020" off the lands

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[SCJ429]

Just keep adding powder until it blows the bolt out of your action and then back it off 1\2 a grain.
Is that what you were after?

[deye243]

Hi Mate
what weight pill are you using
What brand pills are you using, what have you used them on and what results did you get
Thanks

G'day Bello you were asking for loads for 165 grain that is what it was a Hornady SST .
7 Sambar 2 fellow and heaps of Roos under permit. It is not the best bullet for sambar it's a bit fragile these were neck and head shots something tougher would be better like a speer hot core .

[ZaineB]

Here are my loads. Both pretty mild. I just use AR2208 for everything. Works. LOL Velocity is an estimate only.

Both are 0.020" off the lands

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seems very off to me, 30-06 running 130gn getting under 3000fps, nah... not at 49gn of 08, my 270 runs 3150 on the chrono with 130gn at 45gn at 300m above sea level. seems off to me.

[LawrenceA]

Here are my loads. Both pretty mild. I just use AR2208 for everything. Works. LOL Velocity is an estimate only.

Both are 0.020" off the lands

seems very off to me, 30-06 running 130gn getting under 3000fps, nah... not at 49gn of 08, my 270 runs 3150 on the chrono with 130gn at 45gn at 300m above sea level. seems off to me.

Thank you for confirming what Oldbloke stated.

I think you forgot to give us your 30-06 load......

[bladeracer]

Here are my loads. Both pretty mild. I just use AR2208 for everything. Works. LOL Velocity is an estimate only.

Both are 0.020" off the lands

win.JPG

marlin.JPG

seems very off to me, 30-06 running 130gn getting under 3000fps, nah... not at 49gn of 08, my 270 runs 3150 on the chrono with 130gn at 45gn at 300m above sea level. seems off to me.

He said they're mild loads and the velocities are just estimates...

[Oldbloke]

My velocities are just based on the ADI manual less a tad due to 22" barrels. Like I stated very clearly estimates

[deye243]

Here are my loads. Both pretty mild. I just use AR2208 for everything. Works. LOL Velocity is an estimate only.

Both are 0.020" off the lands

seems very off to me, 30-06 running 130gn getting under 3000fps, nah... not at 49gn of 08, my 270 runs 3150 on the chrono with 130gn at 45gn at 300m above sea level. seems off to me.

Thank you for confirming what Oldbloke stated.

I think you forgot to give us your 30-06 load......

[Cooper]

I loaded the Hornady 178 eld-X in my brother’s Tikka Lite (22 inch barrel) worked up to max reloading charge for ar2209 and was getting the stated book velocity.

[ZaineB]

yeah as I said, seems off to me.

[Oldbloke]

yeah as I said, seems off to me.

What are you saying? Wildly optimistic?

[ZaineB]

too slow. especially at that powder charge, I mean if it was 09 at 49gn I'd think that slow would be granted, but at 49gn of 08, I would expect at least something like 3050 at the muzzle, but looking at ADI load data table for my setup shows their velocities down from what I get, they cite 2960 ish but I am getting about 190 fps more than that on multiple chronos. I dont know their criteria but my rifles are all 22" so I would guess more might even be achievable.

[Oldbloke]

Mmm, well perhaps your right but the ADI 9th Edition guide says;

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My barrels are 22", so, I knock off a bit.

Frankly I don't care if it's 100fps out either way. If I do my bit they seem to fall over without questioning how fast the bullet was going.

[LawrenceA]

Frankly I don't care if it's 100fps out either way. If I do my bit they seem to fall over without questioning how fast the bullet was going.

Amen to that!

[Oldbloke]

Oh, ADI use 24" barrels in most cases.

[bigrich]

too slow. especially at that powder charge, I mean if it was 09 at 49gn I'd think that slow would be granted, but at 49gn of 08, I would expect at least something like 3050 at the muzzle, but looking at ADI load data table for my setup shows their velocities down from what I get, they cite 2960 ish but I am getting about 190 fps more than that on multiple chronos. I dont know their criteria but my rifles are all 22" so I would guess more might even be achievable.

There are many variables in reloading, I don’t take anything to be gospel from the load manuals. Two different projectiles of the same weight can give different results depending on shape, bearing surface, ect .
I’ve crono’ed loads in the past, that have come up around the manual listed speeds. These days I work up loads and normally find a accuracy node a grain or so under listed max and just run with that.

I’ve never had a goat or a pig sit up and tell my my projectiles are travelling too slow

[Bello]

Hi Cooper
I have a box or two of the Hornady 178gr ELD-X, has your brother used them on anything, if so what results did he get.
I am trying to decide on a projectile for my 30-06, I was leaning towards the 165 partition but I am listening for ideas and experiences other have had with their projectiles.
I have sierra Gamechanger projectile, hornady SST etc, sitting on my shelf.
Thanks

[ZaineB]

too slow. especially at that powder charge, I mean if it was 09 at 49gn I'd think that slow would be granted, but at 49gn of 08, I would expect at least something like 3050 at the muzzle, but looking at ADI load data table for my setup shows their velocities down from what I get, they cite 2960 ish but I am getting about 190 fps more than that on multiple chronos. I dont know their criteria but my rifles are all 22" so I would guess more might even be achievable.

There are many variables in reloading, I don’t take anything to be gospel from the load manuals. Two different projectiles of the same weight can give different results depending on shape, bearing surface, ect .
I’ve crono’ed loads in the past, that have come up around the manual listed speeds. These days I work up loads and normally find a accuracy node a grain or so under listed max and just run with that.

I’ve never had a goat or a pig sit up and tell my my projectiles are travelling too slow

Yeah I only load my varmint rounds as fast as I can, the other stuff is running heavier projies than average for more punch. but when it comes to varmint shooting, I really cant be arsed with holdover.

[bigrich]

too slow. especially at that powder charge, I mean if it was 09 at 49gn I'd think that slow would be granted, but at 49gn of 08, I would expect at least something like 3050 at the muzzle, but looking at ADI load data table for my setup shows their velocities down from what I get, they cite 2960 ish but I am getting about 190 fps more than that on multiple chronos. I dont know their criteria but my rifles are all 22" so I would guess more might even be achievable.

There are many variables in reloading, I don’t take anything to be gospel from the load manuals. Two different projectiles of the same weight can give different results depending on shape, bearing surface, ect .
I’ve crono’ed loads in the past, that have come up around the manual listed speeds. These days I work up loads and normally find a accuracy node a grain or so under listed max and just run with that.

I’ve never had a goat or a pig sit up and tell my my projectiles are travelling too slow

Yeah I only load my varmint rounds as fast as I can, the other stuff is running heavier projies than average for more punch. but when it comes to varmint shooting, I really cant be arsed with holdover.

Yeah, makes sense. Less holdover is a good thing for varmiting. Projectile speed can have a effect on terminal performance as well. I try to pay close attention to what make and design of projectiles for the job at hand

[bladeracer]

I loaded the Hornady 178 eld-X in my brother’s Tikka Lite (22 inch barrel) worked up to max reloading charge for ar2209 and was getting the stated book velocity.

Agreed, I find the ADI velocities are in the right ballpark usually.

[Oldbloke]

How would you calibrate a chronometer?

ADI really have no need to falsify the velocity.

[ZaineB]

How would you calibrate a chronometer?

ADI really have no need to falsify the velocity.

depends on elevation, humidity and a countless many other variables right down to the brand of chrono the use or if they just take a known value and use that to calculate their velocities. `

[Oldbloke]

They have a test tunnel. I think they can afford a chronometer too.

[bladeracer]

How would you calibrate a chronometer?

ADI really have no need to falsify the velocity.

About the only way I can do it is by testing ammo that is rated right around the sound barrier, if the higher-velocity ones crack and the lower ones don't, I figure it's pretty bloody close.

A chronometer measures time, a chronograph measures time over distance, ie speed.

[Oldbloke]

How would you calibrate a chronometer?

ADI really have no need to falsify the velocity.

About the only way I can do it is by testing ammo that is rated right around the sound barrier, if the higher-velocity ones crack and the lower ones don't, I figure it's pretty bloody close.

A chronometer measures time, a chronograph measures time over distance, ie speed.

My error re chronometer.

That would be a good basic check.

[Bello]

Hi all

Thanks for you inputs
As this is my first 30-06, the purpose of my thread, was to see what people were loading their 30-06 with.

I wasn't sure what projectile to use. I didn't want to go too light or too heavy.
I have other caibres for light and heavy work.

Mainly looking for what projectile you are loading. Have you had success with this projectile.

I have some 165gr partition (What I am leaning towards) I think they will fit the bill for what I want to do. Also have
165gr Game changer,
178ELD-X,
etc etc

[bigrich]

Hi all

Thanks for you inputs
As this is my first 30-06, the purpose of my thread, was to see what people were loading their 30-06 with.

I wasn't sure what projectile to use. I didn't want to go too light or too heavy.
I have other caibres for light and heavy work.

Mainly looking for what projectile you are loading. Have you had success with this projectile.

I have some 165gr partition (What I am leaning towards) I think they will fit the bill for what I want to do. Also have
165gr Game changer,
178ELD-X,
etc etc

Mate, as a all rounder, I’d try heavy SST’s . They expand well at all range, but can be explosive at close range. Price per hundred is good too