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Re: ADI PRIMERS

Post by Oldbloke » 28 Jul 2022, 6:15 pm

OK. I'm not disclosing the source, but I believe it to be reliable. (I guess it's possible I'm wrong but don't think so)

They were making them, but no longer have the equipment.

I understand it was a bussiness decision.
(not very smart IMO)

I'm confident that they could make them again but would require some investment in equipment and planing.

Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.
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Re: ADI PRIMERS

Post by No1_49er » 28 Jul 2022, 6:27 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

C'mon guys, increase your knowledge base a bit.
Just who is it do you think owns ADI?
Anybody heard of Thales? Apparently a fairly large FRENCH conglomerate.
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Post by dnedative » 28 Jul 2022, 6:28 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Lazarus wrote:I don't actually know anyone who would bother with shyte like Norinco so there's that in my meagre defence


I'm a Norinco fan.



Likewise, they make one of the best steel frame 1911's money can buy.
Might not be finished particularly well but nobody else forges frames and slides from 5100 chrome steel.

Don't believe Thales would buy Chinese primers either, Taiwan, South Korea or the Phillipines - yeah, but I cant see buying anything defense wise from China getting approved and given the climate I wouldnt expect them to allow the export anyway.
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Re: ADI PRIMERS

Post by Oldbloke » 28 Jul 2022, 6:41 pm

No1_49er wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

C'mon guys, increase your knowledge base a bit.
Just who is it do you think owns ADI?
Anybody heard of Thales? Apparently a fairly large FRENCH conglomerate.


Correct
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Post by deye243 » 28 Jul 2022, 8:10 pm

dnedative wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
Lazarus wrote:I don't actually know anyone who would bother with shyte like Norinco so there's that in my meagre defence


I'm a Norinco fan.



Likewise, they make one of the best steel frame 1911's money can buy.
Might not be finished particularly well but nobody else forges frames and slides from 5100 chrome steel.

Don't believe Thales would buy Chinese primers either, Taiwan, South Korea or the Phillipines - yeah, but I cant see buying anything defense wise from China getting approved and given the climate I wouldnt expect them to allow the export anyway.


Well it did not surprise me 1 bit

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Post by Diamond Jim » 01 Aug 2022, 1:06 am

cz515 wrote: ...unless people want to pay $17/1000 for primers in 2 years when things settle down and primers maybe back to $10 or less ...


$17/1000? I can't remember ever seeing primers at that price. The last time I bought small pistol primers (about 18 months ago) they were around $60/1000. Did you possibly mean $17/100?
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Post by Oldbloke » 01 Aug 2022, 8:17 am

Diamond Jim wrote:
cz515 wrote: ...unless people want to pay $17/1000 for primers in 2 years when things settle down and primers maybe back to $10 or less ...


$17/1000? I can't remember ever seeing primers at that price. The last time I bought small pistol primers (about 18 months ago) they were around $60/1000. Did you possibly mean $17/100?


Yeh, just before covid hit I paid $45/1000. I thought that was incredibly cheap at the time.
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Re: ADI PRIMERS

Post by cz515 » 01 Aug 2022, 9:57 am

Diamond Jim wrote:
cz515 wrote: ...unless people want to pay $17/1000 for primers in 2 years when things settle down and primers maybe back to $10 or less ...


$17/1000? I can't remember ever seeing primers at that price. The last time I bought small pistol primers (about 18 months ago) they were around $60/1000. Did you possibly mean $17/100?



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Re: ADI PRIMERS

Post by Marlin44 » 03 Aug 2022, 6:59 am

No1_49er wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

C'mon guys, increase your knowledge base a bit.
Just who is it do you think owns ADI?
Anybody heard of Thales? Apparently a fairly large FRENCH conglomerate.


Thales do not own ADI.
ADI facilities are Govt owned and run by contracted defense suppliers.
There will be primers made here within next 5 years under Sovereign Capability planning.
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Post by Oldbloke » 03 Aug 2022, 7:06 am

You are of course correct. "contracted to operate"

Perhaps they own the name "ADI"?
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Post by Lazarus » 03 Aug 2022, 8:50 am

Marlin44 wrote:
No1_49er wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

C'mon guys, increase your knowledge base a bit.
Just who is it do you think owns ADI?
Anybody heard of Thales? Apparently a fairly large FRENCH conglomerate.


Thales do not own ADI.
ADI facilities are Govt owned and run by contracted defense suppliers.
There will be primers made here within next 5 years under Sovereign Capability planning.


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Post by Oldbloke » 03 Aug 2022, 9:13 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_Au ... es%20Group

Lol. How simple.

NIOA is now sharing some of the facilities.
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Post by Marlin44 » 03 Aug 2022, 5:35 pm

Oldbloke wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_Australia#:~:text=Thales%20Australia%20(formerly%20Australian%20Defence,defence%20technology%20conglomerate%20Thales%20Group

Lol. How simple.

NIOA is now sharing some of the facilities.


Well I stand corrected.

I bet Thales is not impressed with that.
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Re: ADI PRIMERS

Post by flashman » 04 Sep 2022, 7:56 am

Well its happen to me for the first time, get a saturday morning off get up early do a run of my 3 LGS to have a bit of a sqizz , for primers ,powder , and projectiles and zilch ,nada at all 3 well what will i do ???? .
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Post by Larry » 04 Sep 2022, 9:21 am

Buy factory ammo and say three Hail Marys as penance for not being a prepper and having a ten year rolling supply which at this stage would now be a 7 year supply. Good Luck.
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Post by bladeracer » 04 Sep 2022, 9:39 am

flashman wrote:Well its happen to me for the first time, get a saturday morning off get up early do a run of my 3 LGS to have a bit of a sqizz , for primers ,powder , and projectiles and zilch ,nada at all 3 well what will i do ???? .


What are you chasing? Dealers down here have most primers and most ADI powders.
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Post by No1Mk3 » 04 Sep 2022, 6:26 pm

ADI uses primers from the US. A couple of friends I know inspected the plant before the fire and saw the packaging, spoke with many of the technicians as part of their job as Material Scientists at DSTO. Most of our primers come from Federal and CCI.
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Re: ADI PRIMERS

Post by flashman » 10 Sep 2022, 10:07 am

After AR2206H ,2208, Bench MK 2 ,224 projectiles ,7.62 as well .......... :( no joy
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Post by bladeracer » 10 Sep 2022, 10:42 am

flashman wrote:After AR2206H ,2208, Bench MK 2 ,224 projectiles ,7.62 as well .......... :( no joy


The bullets you can order online.
But for the powders you'll have to email or call every dealer within a couple hours drive.
I did message you last week but you haven't checked your messages yet.
By "7.62" do you mean .303/7.62x54/39 bullets?
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Post by Oldbloke » 17 Nov 2022, 4:22 pm

Bloody hell. I just spotted on a NZ Web site they are bidding for a box of 100 Winchester large rifle primers and they are at $51 nzd and climbing.

Oops, my bad now $55 and climbing. Sh1t.


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Post by Blr243 » 17 Nov 2022, 6:44 pm

Large rifle in oz available I thought ? Been ages since I checked because I bought 2000 one day and not started useing them yet ... thank the lord LR is what i use mostly
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Post by bladeracer » 17 Nov 2022, 7:57 pm

Blr243 wrote:Large rifle in oz available I thought ? Been ages since I checked because I bought 2000 one day and not started using them yet ... thank the lord LR is what i use mostly


I haven't heard of any supply issues with LR or LRM primers.
I did suggest a while back that if I only used SR and didn't have SR primers I'd be modifying some of my brass to take LR primers just so I could shoot. Perhaps all the fox shooters and pistol shooters are doing that and buying up or the LR's :-)
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Post by Oldbloke » 17 Nov 2022, 8:09 pm

Gents, it's NZ not here. Lol
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Post by bladeracer » 17 Nov 2022, 8:32 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Gents, it's NZ not here. Lol


No, I saw that, but if they're having issues it might be something that'll hit us too.
Are they devoid of pistol primers, fast powders and small rifle primers like us?
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Post by Oldbloke » 17 Nov 2022, 9:08 pm

I get the impression they are short of most components.
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Re: ADI PRIMERS

Post by wanneroo » 18 Nov 2022, 12:39 am

I think everyone around the world is short on primers or prices are high.

With some new production coming online in the USA that might help in the long term. Primers really shouldn't cost all that much.
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