load data request - 6.5 creedmoor hawkie m77

[fxdwg28]

ELD Match in front of 41.2 grains of AR2209

and beyond that ...147 ELD Match pushed along by 42 grains of AR2209.

they put a decent dent in steel plates at 800 metres. yds?

[SCJ429]

To shoot at 800 metres you want every bit of BC and speed you can get. I use a humble 260 AI to shoot the Fly at 500m and I push the case as hard as I can, extra speed is better BC numbers for longer. If you want to shoot well at 800m you first need to shoot small groups at 100. About 1/4 MOA at least. The Hornady ELDM is not a premium bullet and you might do better with Berger if you can get them.
I don't know about denting a gong at 800m but I have shot rocks at 700m and was able to blow bits off them. For denting stuff nothing beats a big bore.

[madang55]

Just when I thought it was safe. I bought a Creedmoor. Howa 26" 1:8" twist. Came here looking for some info.
So:
1. Light projectiles........fast powder.......2206H..2208...I have some I use in the Grendel.
2. Heavy projectiles....slow powder....2209........anything else? Powder still a bit scarce though there's a bit coming thru.
3. 120g - 140g projectiles.....barrel twist? 1:8" specified on THE ELD boxes....1:8 works ok for light weights?
4. Seating depth...I work on the principle....if it fits in the magazine and chambers nicely and produces raggy holes...happy days. Just record EVERYTHING. I've been a bit slack lately with my 223 and 204 and it's bitten me on the soft bits.
5. Is there an advantage/disadvantage small primer/large primer.? I figure stick with one, develope a load that works. Too expensive to beat around with this calibre.
The sun is shining again. It is Melbourne, I might just wait a bit....

[Gamerancher]

I use 2206H for projectiles 108gr and lighter and 2209 for heavier ones up to 147gr ELD-M's in my 6.5CM. Mine's a custom rifle built for silhouette with a 1 in 7.5" twist barrel. I use the lighter pills for the 200m chicken, 300m pig and 385m turkey targets and the heavies for the 500m rams.
For the 2206H loads I use 37gr of powder behind 108gr Lapua scenars and the 2209 load is 41.5 gr of powder behind the 147gr ELD-M's. Both of these loads are on the milder side compared to what others have said but in my rifle, they produce sub 1/2 minute groups that are good enough for me for my application.
I accidently loaded 2206H behind 140gr projectiles once, (I broke the rule of never having two cans of powder on the bench at the same time, ,) it resulted in stretching the primer pockets on brand new cases.( L.R)
Hornady, who by the way developed the 6.5Creedmoor, publish their loading data on their ammo boxes. They list Hodgden power but the ADI equivalent has been listed, ( by Bladeracer I believe) earlier in this topic.

[SCJ429]

Just when I thought it was safe. I bought a Creedmoor. Howa 26" 1:8" twist. Came here looking for some info.
So:
1. Light projectiles........fast powder.......2206H..2208...I have some I use in the Grendel.
2. Heavy projectiles....slow powder....2209........anything else? Powder still a bit scarce though there's a bit coming thru.
3. 120g - 140g projectiles.....barrel twist? 1:8" specified on THE ELD boxes....1:8 works ok for light weights?
4. Seating depth...I work on the principle....if it fits in the magazine and chambers nicely and produces raggy holes...happy days. Just record EVERYTHING. I've been a bit slack lately with my 223 and 204 and it's bitten me on the soft bits.
5. Is there an advantage/disadvantage small primer/large primer.? I figure stick with one, develope a load that works. Too expensive to beat around with this calibre.
The sun is shining again. It is Melbourne, I might just wait a bit....

There is an advantage using small primer cases, mainly for benchresters. Most cases that do well in competition use small rifle primers brass. You can also load with more pressure without loosening up your primer pockets. Lots of brass around the primer pockets.

[madang55]

didn't know that about small/large primers. What I did notice was in the cases I received as part of the sale, Norma cases, large primers is that ...I ran the fired cases and the non-fired cases through the sizer just to be sure...when I primed the fired cases, it was a lot easier than the non-fired cases. Interesting...do Norma cases stretch easily? I might look for some small primer cases.

[Gamerancher]

madang55, in relation to your question, "do Norma cases stretch easily?"
Not usually, but push the limits and anything can happen.

[Clint Ellison]

Mate I'd try 2209 instead. I use it in my 6.5 cm and it gives me good velocity and accuracy. It seems to be a better powder for the calibre.

[madang55]

2209.
By all accounts, posts, replies, Load Data books, 2209 seems to be the "sweet spot" for this calibre.

[madang55]

And....I thought, buy an entry level scope for to try some Precision Rifle shooting....Well numbnuts you've just discovered there isn't really an "entry level scope" for this kind of work....and...There are literally thousands of reticles on the market. And, don't get me started on ballistic calculators..they make my eyes water. And to think we used to shoot all the way to 1000 yards, successfully, with an Omark topped with a Central sight.
.I'm just going to go suck my thumb again.

[deye243]

I'll just leave this here.

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