Oldbloke wrote:Very intetesting Laz.
Any pics of:
22lr subsonic solid
22lr HV,
223 super roo 55gr
308 Hornady Interlock
Oldbloke wrote:Thx Laz,
Id certainly be interested if you do a 22Lr Subsonic solid. I tried a lot of ammo & my Brno likes the RWS Club Solid so i bought 1000. But killing performance will be lacking I guess. The few rabbits I have shot the bullet passed through.
Lazarus wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Thx Laz,
Id certainly be interested if you do a 22Lr Subsonic solid. I tried a lot of ammo & my Brno likes the RWS Club Solid so i bought 1000. But killing performance will be lacking I guess. The few rabbits I have shot the bullet passed through.
The only sub solids I have are Lapua Center X target rounds and I haven't bothered to test them.
I think I might, no promises, have some Aguila Super Extra in the rimfire safe. They aren't subs though.
I'll have a dig and see what I can do for you
Lazarus wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Thx Laz,
Id certainly be interested if you do a 22Lr Subsonic solid. I tried a lot of ammo & my Brno likes the RWS Club Solid so i bought 1000. But killing performance will be lacking I guess. The few rabbits I have shot the bullet passed through.
The only sub solids I have are Lapua Center X target rounds and I haven't bothered to test them.
I think I might, no promises, have some Aguila Super Extra in the rimfire safe. They aren't subs though.
I'll have a dig and see what I can do for you
Lazarus wrote:I looked at the clear synthetic gel but the price put me off so I used food grade gelatin powder which cost me $100 for 5x600g tins.
I made the gell up on 22nd July.
I initially had some mould and fungus problems when the weather put things on hold but on the next remelting after discovering that I increased the melt temperature to 70°C and added 10ml of clove oil to the full batch.
There hasn't been anything but the tiniest of surface only invasions since and I've dealt with them by wiping down with commercial sodium hypochlorite mould spray.
I really wanted to get a gell torso like those used in "Forged in Fire", but they are only available in the US.
We're not allowed such things in Nannyland FFS.
Harronek wrote:Cool ,
It drives me nuts watching YouTube vids of Gel test and they shoot them at point blank range .
Oldbloke wrote:Lazarus wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Thx Laz,
Id certainly be interested if you do a 22Lr Subsonic solid. I tried a lot of ammo & my Brno likes the RWS Club Solid so i bought 1000. But killing performance will be lacking I guess. The few rabbits I have shot the bullet passed through.
The only sub solids I have are Lapua Center X target rounds and I haven't bothered to test them.
I think I might, no promises, have some Aguila Super Extra in the rimfire safe. They aren't subs though.
I'll have a dig and see what I can do for you
They will certainly give me a good idea. I suspect they will not deform.
Interestingly I was told that just flattening the tip a little can make a difference but no way to test.
Lazarus wrote:I was considering trying to use a skin analogue, but everything I could think of would create extraneous debris.
Removing the debris during melting was no issue but it would make differentiation from bullet fragments impossible for photos.
bladeracer wrote:Lazarus wrote:I was considering trying to use a skin analogue, but everything I could think of would create extraneous debris.
Removing the debris during melting was no issue but it would make differentiation from bullet fragments impossible for photos.
Can you get latex sheet?
Years ago a physiotherapist gave me some exercise bands that are latex, about four-inches wide and a couple meters long. That might be alright to wrap a block with, though I doubt it would actually replicate skin of any animal, except perhaps a rabbit. Skin is pretty tough I've found. Paul Harrel just uses op-shop leather jackets to replicate skin, probably as effective as anything else you'll find. Fashion leather is very thin stuff, racing stuff is going to be a lot tougher. "Skin" has enormous variation. Human skin, including the layer of subcutaneous matter, can be quite thick in places, and very, very thin in others, I would guess animals have even wider variation.
bladeracer wrote:I just noticed that OSA are now the importers for Clear Ballistics.
https://www.osaaustralia.com.au/products/accessories/ballistics-gel/ballistics-gel-fbi-block/
The 10% FBI gel block is currently A$360 delivered from the US, I have just emailed OSA for a local price.
Lazarus wrote:Got an email from James yesterday, the F-Bombs have arrived and are in stock.
Cooper wrote:Lazarus wrote:Got an email from James yesterday, the F-Bombs have arrived and are in stock.
I ordered 200 hundreds 62gr F-bombs today. I’ll be trying them in 1-9 twist Howa mini action and my 1-9 twist CZ527. I normally run the Hornady 62gr TAP in the Howa as my Hunting bullet. Will be interesting to to see how the Remex go. I can sense it might be Christmas or after before I test them. But I will post up some groups when I do.
Oldbloke wrote:What did they come out of?
Lazarus wrote:I have been doing some ballistic gel testing of various projectiles over the last month or so, from .22lr to .223 and 12g.
I have just completed testing the REXEM 62gn F-Bombs.
I was impressed with the damage that OO buckshot did to my 30kg gel block from 20m, it split it in two.
I have seen nothing that comes close to the damage these REXEM F-Bombs do though, they destroyed the block completely.
My first pleasant surprise was how accurate they are.
I didn't bother looking for the "ideal" load, just put the minimum, 23gn of 2206H under them and got the 5 round group below at 100m.
The flyer is doubtless my doing.
I did two tests, in the first test the block was somewhat dehydrated from sitting for over a week waiting for a break in the rain and I attributed the extra damage to brittleness from dehydration.
The results were quite impressive as below, with the projectile expanding explosively on impact and leaving a 20cm permanent wound cavity and the main body of the projectile travelling 36cm into the 41cm long block.
After rehydrating the block and giving it 2 days to set, I tested again today.
I didn't think I could have been more impressed than with the last result, but today's blew both the block and me away.
These are the most accurate and destructive projectiles I've ever used and I can't recommend them them highly enough.
Thanks to James at REXEM for providing the projectiles for this test and kudos for creating something so astounding.
Lazarus wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Thx Laz,
Id certainly be interested if you do a 22Lr Subsonic solid. I tried a lot of ammo & my Brno likes the RWS Club Solid so i bought 1000. But killing performance will be lacking I guess. The few rabbits I have shot the bullet passed through.
The only sub solids I have are Lapua Center X target rounds and I haven't bothered to test them.
I think I might, no promises, have some Aguila Super Extra in the rimfire safe. They aren't subs though.
I'll have a dig and see what I can do for you
Oldbloke wrote:Lazarus wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Thx Laz,
Id certainly be interested if you do a 22Lr Subsonic solid. I tried a lot of ammo & my Brno likes the RWS Club Solid so i bought 1000. But killing performance will be lacking I guess. The few rabbits I have shot the bullet passed through.
The only sub solids I have are Lapua Center X target rounds and I haven't bothered to test them.
I think I might, no promises, have some Aguila Super Extra in the rimfire safe. They aren't subs though.
I'll have a dig and see what I can do for you
Laz, did you ever test them?