bladeracer wrote:Another expert still using the 8lb tub of powder he bought fifteen years ago
It's good to educate people though. Very few of the shots most people take actually need the full power of the cartridge they're using.
northdude wrote:And if your chasing accuracy youll usually find something under a max load
SCJ429 wrote:northdude wrote:And if your chasing accuracy youll usually find something under a max load
Not quiet sure what you mean?
If you are blowing primers out of the brass at 3,200 fps but can keep them intact at 3,170 fps, that would be your max load. If the rifle shoots bug holes at 3,160 fps, that would be under the max load but still be a pretty hot load. You then found a reduced load at 2,000 feet per second that also shot very well. There still would be a good case to shoot the 3,160 fps load with a shorter flight time and less wind drift. If you were hunting, it would also improve the terminal performance with more energy dumped into the target and better expansion from your bullet.
For a hunter shooting 500 shots a year, it would take him ten years to shoot out their 223 or 308 barrel even if he used pretty warm loads, as fast as factory ammo. Most hunters would shoot less than that out of one rifle.
[/quote]bladeracer wrote:I doubt barrel life even enters into it. You don't drive your car at redline when you go to the shops, or 95% of all your driving. I don't see any reason to run a firearm at redline all the time either.
northdude wrote:And if your chasing accuracy youll usually find something under a max load
deye243 wrote:bladeracer wrote:I doubt barrel life even enters into it. You don't drive your car at redline when you go to the shops, or 95% of all your driving. I don't see any reason to run a firearm at redline all the time either.
Would you buy a 22 250 or a 243 and seriously run it below 3000 feet per second with a light bullet performance cartridges are purchased just for one reason their performance your response to me sounds like you would buy a 222r and run it like a Rimfire what's the point .
Unless we lived in an even more retarded country than this one where you can only have one rifle.
And as for accuracy hand loading is completely different than reloading nine times out of ten there is another accuracy node just above so-called book Max which in reality is far below what a rifle cartridge combination can digest load data is exactly that just something used for thousands of rifles in the same Calibre we're caution runs the day .
Just pick up half a dozen different reloading manuals in some calibres I have seen as much as 3 grains difference in maxload
northdude wrote:22lr match ammo as far as I know isnt in the hyper velocity end of the scale. Its pretty accurate as well for crappy low velocity stuff
northdude wrote:22lr match ammo as far as I know isnt in the hyper velocity end of the scale. Its pretty accurate as well for crappy low velocity stuff
northdude wrote:If you just want to punch paper at 100m or so you can do it with an accurate load at the lower end of the scale if your rifle has a node there which i have found mine seem to. Whats the point of burning more powder than you need to especially in these times where some of it is hard to come by, well over here anyway. Plus if you read the title of the thread I dont think you are chasing velocity using reduced youth loads???
Oldbloke wrote:I found this by accident. But this topic often comes up so thought I'd post the link.
https://www.handloadermagazine.com/reduced-rifle-loads
bradley33 wrote:Oldbloke wrote:I found this by accident. But this topic often comes up so thought I'd post the link.
https://www.handloadermagazine.com/reduced-rifle-loads
Subject will be a whole lot more useful again once we have pistol powders like in the article
bradley33 wrote:Oldbloke wrote:I found this by accident. But this topic often comes up so thought I'd post the link.
https://www.handloadermagazine.com/reduced-rifle-loads
Subject will be a whole lot more useful again once we have pistol powders like in the article
Oldbloke wrote:Yes agree, but we can also use shotgun powders which is what I've been using for the few I reload for my 223 and also for cast bullets in a 3006.
From what I've read I believe you can use faster rifle powders also such as ar 2207 but I have no experience using that powder.
bladeracer wrote: Reduced loads are more suited to hunting, just use bullets designed to function at the velocities you're working at.
MtnMan wrote:bladeracer wrote: Reduced loads are more suited to hunting, just use bullets designed to function at the velocities you're working at.
Therein lies the problem. Finding a bullet that will expand at the lower velocity.
Been tinkering with .222 rem reduced loads. Tried the Speer 40gr spire point #1017 because it was cheap enough that reloading .222 was less cost than the price of .22WMR. But they wouldn't expand even at 2500fps, which is way above 22wmr velocity.
I'm loathed to try those various fancy plastic tipped things because they are twice the price or more and that that defeats the cost saving exercise.
I'm currently trying the Speer 46gr flat nose #1024 bullet designed for 218 Bee. These are cheap too at $30/100. There is nothing else even close to that price.
Someone needs to sell 40gr JHP 22WMR projectiles.
MtnMan wrote:Pencil holing on dingo sized stuff even when making them into hollow points. Not recovering the bullet as it passes through.