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pistol powder pirates

Post by bigrich » 04 Apr 2023, 5:51 am

most of you fellas have seen the crazy scalpers/pirates trying to take advantage of pistol powder shortages.
on usedguns this morning someone in SA has 2KG of AP100 for sale for $2000 :shock: FFS !
and i thought a add for 4kg of trailboss for $1000 was excessive ! :thumbsdown:
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Post by 6878mm » 04 Apr 2023, 7:22 am

I was about to remak upon this, you beat me toit mate
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Post by Oldbloke » 04 Apr 2023, 7:26 am

I gather a couple of years ago that would have been about $400 ?
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Post by bladeracer » 04 Apr 2023, 11:29 am

Oldbloke wrote:I gather a couple of years ago that would have been about $400 ?


Would've been under $300 when he bought it.
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Post by bigrich » 04 Apr 2023, 1:18 pm

with a bit of foresight , pistol powder is a better investment than gold ...... :P
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Post by rc42 » 04 Apr 2023, 1:51 pm

For a typical 4gn 9mm load that's 26c per round for powder.
Add another 20c for the primer and likely around 20c for the projectile and assuming you already have the brass you're up to 66c per round plus the time and effort to make them.

Factory rounds are still available for less than $33 per box of 50, I think I'd rather have poorer grouping and go that route, at least it adds more once fired brass to the collection for the future.


$1000 per kilo is about three times the price that it would cost to recover your own fast powder from shotshell, hopefully that seller will never find anyone to gouge.
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Post by mchughcb » 08 Apr 2023, 11:33 am

The main thing is the old pensioners who are giving up pistol shooting continue to gouge the youngsters for every last cent before they blow the lot on the pokies.
That is what we call supply and demand.
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Post by Blr243 » 08 Apr 2023, 12:08 pm

A whil back i was chaseing a little bit of red dot but a bloke wanted to sell his entire 8 pond drum that was already partly used for 480 bucks. I thought it was a bit steep but i did not complain. Now im super stoked about the score and im guarding it with my life
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Post by The Shoota » 08 Apr 2023, 8:57 pm

"Nothing is easier, or more emotionally satisfying, than blaming high prices on those who charge them, rather than on those who cause them.”
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Post by mchughcb » 09 Apr 2023, 11:48 am

The Shoota wrote:"Nothing is easier, or more emotionally satisfying, than blaming high prices on those who charge them, rather than on those who cause them.”
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Thomas Sowell is a legend.

And this is quite true.
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Post by straightshooter » 09 Apr 2023, 12:30 pm

mchughcb wrote:
The Shoota wrote:"Nothing is easier, or more emotionally satisfying, than blaming high prices on those who charge them, rather than on those who cause them.”
Thomas Sowell


Thomas Sowell is a legend.

And this is quite true.

Thomas Sowell is a great thinker of our era....
But what should be clear is that one is under no obligation to pay those high prices.
It's not like one is dealing with the Government or some other form of mafia.
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Post by bladeracer » 09 Apr 2023, 12:32 pm

straightshooter wrote:Thomas Sowell is a great thinker of our era....
But what should be clear is that one is under no obligation to pay those high prices.
It's not like one is dealing with the Government or some other form of mafia.


If it's the only powder on the market you may well be obligated to pay it, if you want to keep shooting.
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Post by Gadge » 14 Apr 2023, 2:15 pm

bladeracer wrote:
straightshooter wrote:Thomas Sowell is a great thinker of our era....
But what should be clear is that one is under no obligation to pay those high prices.
It's not like one is dealing with the Government or some other form of mafia.


If it's the only powder on the market you may well be obligated to pay it, if you want to keep shooting.

Yup. Especially with a licence that has compulsory participation requirements, as with Cat H.

You must be grinning that you snapped up that 2kg AS50N from me, a couple of years back! :lol:
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Post by bladeracer » 14 Apr 2023, 4:57 pm

Gadge wrote:
bladeracer wrote:If it's the only powder on the market you may well be obligated to pay it, if you want to keep shooting.

Yup. Especially with a licence that has compulsory participation requirements, as with Cat H.

You must be grinning that you snapped up that 2kg AS50N from me, a couple of years back! :lol:


Haven't even opened it yet, Gadge :-)
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Post by Jackaroo » 14 Apr 2023, 4:59 pm

Ring around some gunshops and be prepared to travel. A lot of folks have scored Vectan powders for $120.00 per 500gm container in the last couple of weeks.

There will be more coming into Australia, thankfully someone has stepped into the breech for Aussie pistol and shotgun shooters.......ADI, hang your collective heads in shame.
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Post by deye243 » 14 Apr 2023, 6:18 pm

Jackaroo wrote:Ring around some gunshops and be prepared to travel. A lot of folks have scored Vectan powders for $120.00 per 500gm container in the last couple of weeks.
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I was lucky enough to find 2 pounds of vectan and paid $110 per in Victoria
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Post by Jackaroo » 14 Apr 2023, 9:24 pm

deye243 wrote:
Jackaroo wrote:Ring around some gunshops and be prepared to travel. A lot of folks have scored Vectan powders for $120.00 per 500gm container in the last couple of weeks.
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I was lucky enough to find 2 pounds of vectan and paid $110 per in Victoria

Great stuff, I'm really glad that Vectan powders have been able to be sourced by some of my fellow shooters who were down to just dregs and at just normal retail prices.
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Post by deye243 » 14 Apr 2023, 10:37 pm

Jackaroo wrote:
deye243 wrote:
Jackaroo wrote:Ring around some gunshops and be prepared to travel. A lot of folks have scored Vectan powders for $120.00 per 500gm container in the last couple of weeks.
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I was lucky enough to find 2 pounds of vectan and paid $110 per in Victoria

Great stuff, I'm really glad that Vectan powders have been able to be sourced by some of my fellow shooters who were down to just dregs and at just normal retail prices.

I have been stripping shotgun shells just like back when Obama cause all this s**t
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