%.6x57

Reloading equipment, methods, load data, powder and projectile information.

%.6x57

Post by xkkat » 13 Dec 2023, 11:57 am

Hi Guys I have a 5.6x57 Steyr Is anyone loading for this caliber? Factory ammo is like hen's teeth, and is only made by RWS in Germany. The parent case is 7x57 Mauser Which has to be necked down to .224 and then length sized SO looking for brass -full-length sizing dies The brass takes Large rifle primers and .224 projectiles Originally fired a 74-grain pill Any help and advice are wanted desperately!! regards xkkat
xkkat
Recruit
Recruit
 
Posts: 27
New South Wales

Re: %.6x57

Post by No1Mk3 » 13 Dec 2023, 1:15 pm

G'day xkkat,
Rebel have once fired Norma or S&B new 7x57 brass, or you can make your own out of 8x57, 280 Rem, 270 Win or 30-06. Beretta Australia have both brass and ammo in stock if you get your LGS to order it, over $10 a cartridge or $5 per brass. Dies can be had from Northern Shooters, 2 die set $250 + post. The 5.6x57 was/is a popular calibre in Europe and can do everything the 220 Swift can do, at several times the price. Cheers.
No1Mk3
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
 
Posts: 2105
Victoria

Re: %.6x57

Post by deye243 » 13 Dec 2023, 1:54 pm

22 243 would be a lot cheaper
User avatar
deye243
Lieutenant
Lieutenant
 
Posts: 2256
Victoria

Re: %.6x57

Post by 9.3x64 » 13 Dec 2023, 3:23 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:G'day xkkat,
Rebel have once fired Norma or S&B new 7x57 brass, or you can make your own out of 8x57, 280 Rem, 270 Win or 30-06. Beretta Australia have both brass and ammo in stock if you get your LGS to order it, over $10 a cartridge or $5 per brass. Dies can be had from Northern Shooters, 2 die set $250 + post. The 5.6x57 was/is a popular calibre in Europe and can do everything the 220 Swift can do, at several times the price. Cheers.

Rebel also have some loaded RWS 5.6x57 ammo in the old box on the counter. It is loaded with 74 grain Cone points. It is not to expensive, and even buying it for the brass might be worthwhile.
9.3x64
Lance Corporal
Lance Corporal
 
Posts: 146
Queensland

Re: %.6x57

Post by 9.3x64 » 13 Dec 2023, 3:30 pm

Keep in mind that 5.6x57 cases have a much thicker neck than other x57 cases. This design was so that 22 man gun insert barrel could be used. I think you have to use 5.6x57 brass but I am not positive on this.
9.3x64
Lance Corporal
Lance Corporal
 
Posts: 146
Queensland

Re: %.6x57

Post by xkkat » 20 Dec 2023, 4:52 pm

Hi Guys (.3x64 mentions a shop called Rebel Can you give me more info re where they are and full trading name so I can contact them Regards Xkkat
xkkat
Recruit
Recruit
 
Posts: 27
New South Wales

Re: %.6x57

Post by Wm.Traynor » 20 Dec 2023, 7:01 pm

rebelgunworks.com.au
Wm.Traynor
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
 
Posts: 1651
Queensland

Re: %.6x57

Post by on_one_wheel » 20 Dec 2023, 9:01 pm

That's one unusual cartridge, just curious with the multitude of regular choices we have what made you get onto that one?
Gun control requires concentration and a steady hand
User avatar
on_one_wheel
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 3596
South Australia

Re: %.6x57

Post by xkkat » 21 Dec 2023, 6:29 am

Hi guys thanks for the help Rifle is a Steyr Manlichter full wood with a Swarofski scope in claw mounts virtually unused. (guess why) With the ammo situation the owner will have to pay me to take it!! Its 150FPS faster than a 220 swift if bullet weight is the same regards xkkat
xkkat
Recruit
Recruit
 
Posts: 27
New South Wales

Re: %.6x57

Post by Oldbloke » 21 Dec 2023, 6:46 am

I'm not a fan of it, but rebarreling or rechambering could be an option if its the right price. They are nice rifles.
The greatest invention in the history of man is beer.
https://youtu.be/2v3QrUvYj-Y
Member. SFFP, Shooters Union.
SSAA, the powerful gun lobby. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hunt safe.
User avatar
Oldbloke
Field Marshal
Field Marshal
 
Posts: 11314
Victoria

Re: %.6x57

Post by xkkat » 21 Dec 2023, 10:27 am

Hi guys I tried Rebel this morning --No go Anyone know what the rechambering options are?
xkkat
Recruit
Recruit
 
Posts: 27
New South Wales

Re: %.6x57

Post by straightshooter » 21 Dec 2023, 3:30 pm

A simpler solution than rechambering would be to form the brass yourself.
If you start with 7x57 brass you will need a 244 Rem FLS die and 5.6x57 FLS die and high quality lube. I recommend a thin smear of Castor Oil.
For the first pass remove the expander ball from the 244 Rem die and size.
Relube and then pass through the 5.6x57 die.
Now the neck should thicken up in that forming process which can be verified by test seating a.224 projectile. If it grips the projectile OK then you are good to go.
If it doesn't then you will need to start with 8x57 brass and add as the first step of full length sizing in a 7x57 FLS die.
Fortunately 7x57 and 8x57 brass are readily available.
If however the 8x57 also does not work satisfactorily then it gets a little more complicated.
One approach would be to start with 270 Win brass, anneal the neck and shoulder and FLS in the 7x57 die then the 244 Rem die then the 5.6x57 die, You will definitely need to trim to length and you also might have to thin the neck.
Another approach with the 7x57 brass process would be to use a suitably adjusted bushing die for say the 22 Cheetah to only size the neck. It will have to be a 22 cartridge with a shoulder diameter bigger than the 5.6x57.
Sounds a little complicated but if you do it yourself you won't have any case availability anxiety.
"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
"There is no expedient to which a man will not resort to avoid the real labor of thinking." Sir Joshua Reynolds
straightshooter
Warrant Officer C1
Warrant Officer C1
 
Posts: 1270
New South Wales

Re: %.6x57

Post by 9.3x64 » 21 Dec 2023, 7:10 pm

xkkat wrote:Hi guys I tried Rebel this morning --No go Anyone know what the rechambering options are?

Do you know if they checked the box of old ammo on the counter?
I bet they didn’t and just checked the computer.
I am sure I saw some in that box recently, unless of course they have been sold.
But they have been in that box for years.
9.3x64
Lance Corporal
Lance Corporal
 
Posts: 146
Queensland

Re: %.6x57

Post by bigrich » 22 Dec 2023, 6:26 am

xkkat wrote:Hi guys I tried Rebel this morning --No go Anyone know what the rechambering options are?


i would say the most foolproof way would be to rechamber into something based on the 57mm mauser case for smooth feeding/chambering . my favorite picks would be 257bob or the 6mm/244 rem, which as i understand it , is a necked down 257bob . both are based on the 7x57 case , which maybe is another option . 257 brass crops up regularly , but beware the cheap winchester brass is NOT annealed and results in split necks .
some of these old euro calibers seem like a good idea , but sourcing brass can be a issue . i had a post war brno 21H a while ago in 8x60s mauser. made my own cases from 30-06 brass succesfully , but it gets old really fast ;) hope this helps . :thumbsup:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4526
Queensland


Back to top
 
Return to Reloading ammunition