Trail Boss Substitute for Subsonic Rifle Loads

[bladeracer]

Seems it's already on shelves!

[Maxjon]

I still have 1kg of TB myself but I don't believe its the best subsonic powder. I've used lots of pistol and shotgun powders in lots of different 30 caliber cases. AP50, AP70 and AR2205 (Rifle/Pistol) delivered very good accuracy. But It looks like they are no more. Looks like I will starting over with the APS range of powders. I'm keen to try some APS950.

Why do you feel TB isn't the best for subs? I love the stuff, and can't think of any cartridge at all that it doesn't work in. And it is incredibly safe to use. But it does have a velocity limit, there comes a point in some cartridges where adding more powder doesn't gain any more velocity. Something like 300BLK with a 230gn bullet struggles to get up to high subsonic on TB.

I haven't heard of any issues with APS950 or APS650 so far, hopefully they finally have a finished product. Keep us apprised of your results when you do try the new powders.

I love it too, but its not the only powder that can achieve an accurate subsonic load thats all...I will keep everyone posted when i get some APS950 to try...

[bladeracer]

I love it too, but its not the only powder that can achieve an accurate subsonic load thats all...I will keep everyone posted when i get some APS950 to try...

No, definitely there are other choices, but it's very accurate for me in lots of things, .204, .223, .243, 6.5x55mm, 7mm-08, .30-06, etc. I also use it in things that aren't very inherently accurate and it's no worse than you'd expect from those, like the .303's and .30-30, and pistol-caliber rifles like .38 Special, .357Mag and .44Mag. I wouldn't expect it to hold as tight a group at 300m but that's more due to the reduced velocity than the powder itself. I have so far only been interested in getting a nice low velocity in the .38, but I will be shooting some groups to see how accurate this load is at 50m, perhaps even further.

The low density I feel gives it excellent consistency as it minimises empty case volume.

[Billo]

Only $210 for 1.5kg of Trailboss, seems my decision to sell 2 bottles recently for $750 ea was well timed.

First shipment already sold out with plenty of names on the BO order list

[Over The Hill]

Victorian dealer listing today on Oz Gun Sales

ADI Powders In Stock currently
APS650
TRAIL BOSS AR2213SC
AR2206H AR2217
AR2207 AR2219
AR2208 BENCHMARK 1
AR2209 BENCHMARK 2
BENCHMARK 8208

[Oldbloke]

Just looked. One of my LGSs has most of them except the trail boss. The 650 is $99.for 500g

Been a few deliveries for sure.