Berger vld 80gr 223 rem loads

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Berger vld 80gr 223 rem loads

Post by Dbk » 28 Mar 2024, 10:36 am

I know there is a manual. But I only need load data for this one bullet I'm trying out. I have a few to try a few reloads. Don't want to buy a whole book just for that.

Anyone can help me out .. I have 2208 and 2206h powders.
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Post by deye243 » 28 Mar 2024, 2:24 pm

My load for 80vld is 24g of o8 at 2745fps seated to 2.890 BTO shoots good to 700y
The vid is just over 500y
https://youtube.com/shorts/jcqKiUJnysM? ... -IB53vUA_l
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Post by bladeracer » 28 Mar 2024, 3:14 pm

Dbk wrote:I know there is a manual. But I only need load data for this one bullet I'm trying out. I have a few to try a few reloads. Don't want to buy a whole book just for that.

Anyone can help me out .. I have 2208 and 2206h powders.


Haven't used the Berger but I'm using 23.5gn of AR2206H behind 80gn ELDM at 2.450".
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Post by bladeracer » 28 Mar 2024, 3:15 pm

deye243 wrote:My load for 80vld is 24g of o8 at 2745fps seated to 2.890 BTO shoots good to 700y
The vid is just over 500y
https://youtube.com/shorts/jcqKiUJnysM? ... -IB53vUA_l


Do you mean 1.890"?
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Post by deye243 » 28 Mar 2024, 5:21 pm

bladeracer wrote:
deye243 wrote:My load for 80vld is 24g of o8 at 2745fps seated to 2.890 BTO shoots good to 700y
The vid is just over 500y
https://youtube.com/shorts/jcqKiUJnysM? ... -IB53vUA_l


Do you mean 1.890"?

Nope I forgot I use a proper method of using the Forster nut it will give you a proper measurement to the ogive Shank Junction unlike the hornady rubbish and others that mesure way off
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Post by bladeracer » 28 Mar 2024, 7:12 pm

deye243 wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
deye243 wrote:My load for 80vld is 24g of o8 at 2745fps seated to 2.890 BTO shoots good to 700y
The vid is just over 500y
https://youtube.com/shorts/jcqKiUJnysM? ... -IB53vUA_l


Do you mean 1.890"?

Nope I forgot I use a proper method of using the Forster nut it will give you a proper measurement to the ogive Shank Junction unlike the hornady rubbish and others that mesure way off


So the overall cartridge length is well over three inches long?
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Post by deye243 » 28 Mar 2024, 8:00 pm

Oops I got the brand wrong it's a SINCLAIR COMPARATOR NUT and the holes in it are only a few thou under bullet dia so it will give you a true measurement not 30 odd thou above the land contact point on the pill .
https://youtu.be/u6P3GeLn2BA?si=Go6t59d90PXO0Cv2
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Post by deye243 » 28 Mar 2024, 8:05 pm

Overall length is a mystery as all the meplats on hollowpoint bullets including berger are a different length but the overall on my load is around 2.422"
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Post by bladeracer » 28 Mar 2024, 8:26 pm

deye243 wrote:Overall length is a mystery as all the meplats on hollowpoint bullets including berger are a different length but the overall on my load is around 2.422"


Okay, so how are you measuring your ogive length to be half an inch longer than the actual length of the cartridge?
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Post by SCJ429 » 28 Mar 2024, 8:41 pm

In a standard Tikka barrel my load is 24.1 of 2208 with a COAL of 2.490 using Lapua brass.
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Post by Dbk » 28 Mar 2024, 11:22 pm

So it seems similar loads to my SMK 80gr.

Do Bergers do better seated very close to the rifling? I seat my SMK 5 thou ish and it does well enough that I managed to get 2 flys at the recent club flyshoot!
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Post by SCJ429 » 29 Mar 2024, 9:01 am

They are very forgiving regarding seating depth but jammed usually gives the best results. Also makes the most of the 223 pitiful case capacity.
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Re: Berger vld 80gr 223 rem loads

Post by deye243 » 29 Mar 2024, 12:56 pm

bladeracer wrote:
deye243 wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
deye243 wrote:My load for 80vld is 24g of o8 at 2745fps seated to 2.890 BTO shoots good to 700y
The vid is just over 500y
https://youtube.com/shorts/jcqKiUJnysM? ... -IB53vUA_l


Do you mean 1.890"?

Nope I forgot I use a proper method of using the Forster nut it will give you a proper measurement to the ogive Shank Junction unlike the hornady rubbish and others that mesure way off


So the overall cartridge length is well over three inches long?

I don't bother to zero my callipers as they are analogue dial and tmfa to do it all the time .
So I should have left out the coal.
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Post by Dbk » 27 Apr 2024, 2:12 am

SCJ429 wrote:In a standard Tikka barrel my load is 24.1 of 2208 with a COAL of 2.490 using Lapua brass.


I gave in and ordered the Berger manual. It says 22.2 of 2208/varget is the max powder charge. How did you arrive at 24.1gr and any issues?
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Post by bladeracer » 27 Apr 2024, 11:23 am

Dbk wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:In a standard Tikka barrel my load is 24.1 of 2208 with a COAL of 2.490 using Lapua brass.


I gave in and ordered the Berger manual. It says 22.2 of 2208/varget is the max powder charge. How did you arrive at 24.1gr and any issues?


Is that at 2.490"? Length is a critical part of load data.
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Post by Blr243 » 27 Apr 2024, 11:42 am

Can I interrupt? If I wanted to load up some 80 s in my mini action. howa 16 inch 223. Twist 1/8. Is this going to stabilise a bullet of this weight Mostly I’ll be shooting 55
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Post by bladeracer » 27 Apr 2024, 12:37 pm

Blr243 wrote:Can I interrupt? If I wanted to load up some 80 s in my mini action. howa 16 inch 223. Twist 1/8. Is this going to stabilise a bullet of this weight Mostly I’ll be shooting 55


Depends on the length of the bullet but I think all 80gn .224" bullets should be fine in an 8" twist.
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Re: Berger vld 80gr 223 rem loads

Post by bladeracer » 27 Apr 2024, 2:17 pm

Dbk wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:In a standard Tikka barrel my load is 24.1 of 2208 with a COAL of 2.490 using Lapua brass.


I gave in and ordered the Berger manual. It says 22.2 of 2208/varget is the max powder charge. How did you arrive at 24.1gr and any issues?


I don't have the Berger data but don't they list data to SAAMI lengths only? If they're loading 80gn bullets to 2.260" they are going to see pressures very early compared to loading to 2.450" or longer.
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