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ADI Propellant Update

Post by Jackaroo » 09 Apr 2024, 11:38 am

ADI Propellant Update

They really give a S#$T don't they?

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Post by deye243 » 09 Apr 2024, 1:55 pm

What would you expect from a French company
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Post by Jackaroo » 09 Apr 2024, 2:00 pm

deye243 wrote:What would you expect from a French company


A submarine with 9' ceilings so that they don't bump their finger tips when they surrender.
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Post by deye243 » 09 Apr 2024, 2:24 pm

Jackaroo wrote:
deye243 wrote:What would you expect from a French company


A submarine with 9' ceilings so that they don't bump their finger tips when they surrender.

Absolutely
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Post by rossfrb » 09 Apr 2024, 4:45 pm

Jackaroo wrote:
deye243 wrote:What would you expect from a French company


A submarine with 9' ceilings so that they don't bump their finger tips when they surrender.


Oh that's a good one. :thumbsup:
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Post by Bugman » 09 Apr 2024, 6:12 pm

How many gears in a french tank? 9 reverse and one forward. Why one forward? In case they are attacked from the rear.
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Post by deye243 » 09 Apr 2024, 6:55 pm

Bugman wrote:How many gears in a french tank? 9 reverse and one forward. Why one forward? In case they are attacked from the rear.

Haha :thumbsup:
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Post by on_one_wheel » 09 Apr 2024, 7:36 pm

Good one !
Lol... dammed frogs.
I'd also expect permanently fixed white flag on the periscope and a one way communication system so they could transmit their complaints.
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Post by rc42 » 09 Apr 2024, 8:35 pm

There was an update that blamed humidity and the weather for their inability to produce fast powders but they removed it from their site and there hasn't been an update since.

I understand they are doing very nicely running at full plant capacity making rifle powders, mostly for the export market.
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Post by Baronvonrort » 09 Apr 2024, 8:41 pm

deye243 wrote:What would you expect from a French company


My Grandfather had a French WW1 rifle. He said it was dropped once never used.
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Post by Bello » 12 Apr 2024, 11:31 am

Hello all
I have recently received some TOP SECRET information about whats happening with the french owned THALES and the pistol powders.
They have now decided to diversify into:.......
I think I over-heard a conversation that sounded like
'Bugger you jack, I'm ok'
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Post by Jackaroo » 18 Apr 2024, 5:09 pm

They didn't spell 'Bummer' correctly.

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Post by ederlezi » 09 May 2024, 10:04 am

Hahaha, a few good ones here and I am half french.

I would just say, the "never fired, dropped once" is more appropriate for the June 1940 campaign than ww1. It is usually a joke referring to the mas 36. You don't get 5 million dead or wounded without shooting a couple of rounds. Diggers and "poilus" both had it tough in ww1, same goes for Sammies and Tommies
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Post by Billo » 09 May 2024, 1:21 pm

bit of Alliant Reloader & Vihtavuori powders coming next month
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Post by Jackaroo » 21 May 2024, 5:21 pm

Last update from ADI was in 2021......you SUCK ADI. Thankfully Tigershark has been bringing in powder for Aussie pistol reloaders.

https://www.adiworldclass.com.au/news/
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Post by bladeracer » 21 May 2024, 5:40 pm

Jackaroo wrote:Last update from ADI was in 2021......you SUCK ADI. Thankfully Tigershark has been bringing in powder for Aussie pistol reloaders.

https://www.adiworldclass.com.au/news/


They have been slack in public statements but if you write and ask them they will respond. A few months ago they said that they are finally testing the new APS powders.
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Post by yoshie » 21 May 2024, 6:05 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Jackaroo wrote:Last update from ADI was in 2021......you SUCK ADI. Thankfully Tigershark has been bringing in powder for Aussie pistol reloaders.

https://www.adiworldclass.com.au/news/


They have been slack in public statements but if you write and ask them they will respond. A few months ago they said that they are finally testing the new APS powders.


I wonder what they'll blame this time? It was the weather last time.
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Post by bladeracer » 21 May 2024, 6:35 pm

yoshie wrote:I wonder what they'll blame this time? It was the weather last time.


The production line was the issue, though our environment played a role. I don't know what they'll come up with, or whether they'll need to. I doubt they've spent four years dedicated to sorting the line out, but if they're now testing then they are at least producing something. Hopefully it means they have some confidence that they've sorted the issue. Whether the product is good enough remains to be seen of course, when we eventually see it. Sometime 2025 is the best bet I think. There are people that used, and still use, the APS powders successfully so it wasn't entirely garbage. I think they must've done a batch during the summer, figured it was good and put it to market. Then they did another batch in the winter and it all fell apart. A guy posted on FB yesterday that he's doing testing with three of the "old" APS powders so it is still in peoples' cupboards.
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Post by Jackaroo » 21 May 2024, 8:13 pm

I've burned through multiple jugs of APS350...........was a great powder.
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Post by Oldbloke » 21 May 2024, 9:05 pm

bladeracer wrote:
yoshie wrote:I wonder what they'll blame this time? It was the weather last time.


The production line was the issue, though our environment played a role. I don't know what they'll come up with, or whether they'll need to. I doubt they've spent four years dedicated to sorting the line out, but if they're now testing then they are at least producing something. Hopefully it means they have some confidence that they've sorted the issue. Whether the product is good enough remains to be seen of course, when we eventually see it. Sometime 2025 is the best bet I think. There are people that used, and still use, the APS powders successfully so it wasn't entirely garbage. I think they must've done a batch during the summer, figured it was good and put it to market. Then they did another batch in the winter and it all fell apart. A guy posted on FB yesterday that he's doing testing with three of the "old" APS powders so it is still in peoples' cupboards.


There is another facility out there with almost identical issue. In Canada I think.
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Post by No1Mk3 » 23 May 2024, 2:32 pm

Don't hold your breath for powder for civilian reloading consumers, Alliant in the US just stopped all reloading powder supplies "for the foreseeable future" due to nitrocellulose shortages and are reserving all powders for their loaded ammunition brands. And just for info, the 2 largest suppliers of nitrocellulose are China and Russia, with Russia just banning exports to US, Europe etc.
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Post by bladeracer » 23 May 2024, 2:40 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:Don't hold your breath for powder for civilian reloading consumers, Alliant in the US just stopped all reloading powder supplies "for the foreseeable future" due to nitrocellulose shortages and are reserving all powders for their loaded ammunition brands. And just for info, the 2 largest suppliers of nitrocellulose are China and Russia, with Russia just banning exports to US, Europe etc.


Might be time to start using black instead of smokeless.
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Post by Jackaroo » 23 May 2024, 3:19 pm

Saw this on another site -

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Post by on_one_wheel » 23 May 2024, 8:49 pm

100% text book manoeuvres straight from Sun Tzu's Military Method,The Art of War.

It's been China's plan in the making for years, we've allowed them to have the monopoly on critical products, allowed our industries to vanish, They've destroyed world econmys with the Chinavirus, created and feed world tensions, sat back and watch the fireworks, cut exports to select nations... their waiting for one silly move while we're on our knees and they'll strike.
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Post by Oldbloke » 23 May 2024, 8:59 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:100% text book manoeuvres straight from Sun Tzu's Military Method,The Art of War.

It's been China's plan in the making for years, we've allowed them to have the monopoly on critical products, allowed our industries to vanish, They've destroyed world econmys with the Chinavirus, created and feed world tensions, sat back and watch the fireworks, cut exports to select nations... their waiting for one silly move while we're on our knees and they'll strike.
Successive governments have played straight into China's hands.


Yep.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 23 May 2024, 9:22 pm

Either that or just sit back and wait for China, Russia and NK to deliver them for free.
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Post by deye243 » 24 May 2024, 12:11 am

on_one_wheel wrote:Either that or just sit back and wait for China, Russia and NK to deliver them for free.

Narh never happen here last thing they want is a country chokablock full of resources radiated but they may aswell as we refuse to use them .
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Post by Oldbloke » 24 May 2024, 5:24 pm

Well, well. Interesting finds there Jackeroo. Well done.

Haven't read all of the audit. However, the stand out appears to me is that the department of Defence couldn't run a project to build an out house. Sooo, nothing new there.

You just have to look at their history in this regard.

Edit: The original production line was built in about two years during the war when there were man power shortages and almost zero local knowledge. The yanks helped out there in a big way. Here we are now, what, 10 years and we can't build a new production line/facility. IMO that's pathetic.

And to add, we tell the whole world we can't do it and where all our defence facilities are.
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