Nick Harvey 22 hi power

[JGR1949]

Wonder if someone could post the data page from Nick's book please on 70 grn bullets

JGR

[bladeracer]

Wonder if someone could post the data page from Nick's book please on 70 grn bullets

JGR

[JGR1949]

Many thanks, what volume book is that from? I thought his latest book would have more ADI powders. 3031 has always been the best powder for my rifle but can't get it here anymore

JGR

[bladeracer]

Many thanks, what volume book is that from? I thought his latest book would have more ADI powders. 3031 has always been the best powder for my rifle but can't get it here anymore

JGR

First edition, 1980 I think. I don't have any of his later editions.
H4198 is AR2207,
H4895 is AR2206H.

[JGR1949]

Hopefully someone might have a later manual so I can compare

[Oldbloke]

What's his manual like?

Mmmm sort of thinking of buying one.

[bladeracer]

Hopefully someone might have a later manual so I can compare

I really don't think you need load data. The Hi-Power is slightly bigger than the .223 so just use .223 data. The biggest issue is the over-size bullets, the simplest way around that is casting your own bullets.

[bladeracer]

What's his manual like?

Mmmm sort of thinking of buying one.

Do you want load data or background about reloading techniques?
I like Naramore and Lee's Modern Reloading, I keep them on my Mediafire - 33Mb and 180Mb.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kqsx4xi81goxsn7/Handloaders_Manual_Naramore1943.pdf/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/x8etv3j7j4m612h/Modern_Reloading_1st_Edition_by_Richard_Lee.pdf/file

[bladeracer]

Hopefully someone might have a later manual so I can compare

It's a 1912 cartridge that went away many years ago, I'd be surprised if many modern manuals include data for it. Very few bullet manufacturers even make bullets for it now.

[Oldbloke]

What's his manual like?

Mmmm sort of thinking of buying one.

Do you want load data or background about reloading techniques?
I like Naramore and Lee's Modern Reloading, I keep them on my Mediafire - 33Mb and 180Mb.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kqsx4xi81goxsn7/Handloaders_Manual_Naramore1943.pdf/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/x8etv3j7j4m612h/Modern_Reloading_1st_Edition_by_Richard_Lee.pdf/file

Thx,
I already have Lee's 1st ed
But grabbed a copy of the other one.

[JGR1949]

The pressure issues would arise using 223 data for a bolt action rifle when the loads I need are for a Savage 99 made in 1927. Harvey published loads in all his manuals and updated them right through to last number 8 I think.

[JGR1949]

Bladracer ive been loading the cartridge for 50 years but have always used IMR 3031 and have finally ran out, I am working with RL-7 at the moment but was interested in the options Harvey would have printed

[bladeracer]

The pressure issues would arise using 223 data for a bolt action rifle when the loads I need are for a Savage 99 made in 1927. Harvey published loads in all his manuals and updated them right through to last number 8 I think.

The Hi Power case has a little more capacity than the .223 so pressures would be lower, by a good margin. I would expect a maximum .223 load to be roughly on-par with a starting load in the Hi Power.
I can't comment on the manuals as I don't have them.

You are loading a long-dead cartridge so just work up your own load data with whichever powders and bullets you have to play with, personally, I'd start with AR2206H (H4895) or AR2208 (Varget).

[bladeracer]

Bladracer ive been loading the cartridge for 50 years but have always used IMR 3031 and have finally ran out, I am working with RL-7 at the moment but was interested in the options Harvey would have printed

Reloader7 is a pretty fast rifle powder. I'm sure you can make decent loads using it but I would prefer a little slower, AR2206H or AR2208. BM2 or BM8208 would be very close to the same burn rate as IMR3031, but still on the fast side. I just went back through all the old Alliant manuals I can find (back to 1987) and I can't find any listing for the Hi Power. You could write to Alliant and ask them for data though.

[bladeracer]

https://enoughgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18790#p323242

This thread does have some load data, and you might be able to bounce ideas off Drone.

[bladeracer]

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10802681/re-22-savage-hi-power#Post10802681

And this guy found the Hornady bullet didn't work for him unless he shortened it.

[bladeracer]

A guy on FB sent me this from the 9th edition.

[bladeracer]

And from the 6th edition.

[Oldbloke]

I assume you have seen this?

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[JGR1949]

Good stuff, I threw the post up on a face book forum also and got that load from his last book its close to the Hornady book from memory for RL 7. One of those times I wish I hadn't given away all my old loading books i'm sure Reloading Simplified had a good few loads in also

[Oldbloke]

Good stuff, I threw the post up on a face book forum also and got that load from his last book its close to the Hornady book from memory for RL 7. One of those times I wish I hadn't given away all my old loading books i'm sure Reloading Simplified had a good few loads in also

I have that.
I'll check tomorrow

[JGR1949]

Many thanks, clearly like me "oldbloke" sleep is an issue lol

[Oldbloke]

Here you go.

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[Over The Hill]

Another version taken from his 1993 book. The original book from 1980 was "Reloading for Rifle and Handgun" He printed a new book in 1993 "Nick Harvey's Practical Reloading Manual"

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[JGR1949]

Many thanks I wonder if one could substitute 2206H for 2206 as a straight swap? ive still got a bit of RL-7 left so will sort something out. Its really only for shooting paper now anyway maybe the odd fox around the farm

[bladeracer]

Many thanks I wonder if one could substitute 2206H for 2206 as a straight swap? ive still got a bit of RL-7 left so will sort something out. Its really only for shooting paper now anyway maybe the odd fox around the farm

Yes, you can, check the ADI FAQ.

[JGR1949]

Thanks mate, will put some loads together with 2206H, good to kick things around

[bladeracer]

Thanks mate, will put some loads together with 2206H, good to kick things around

AR2206H is my favourite rifle powder, there's not much that it won't work in, and very versatile, you can use it to shoot 1000fps or 4000fps.

[Oldbloke]

Just keep in mind it is a tad slower.

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[JGR1949]

Will do

Its got hard to find projectiles for the old girl she liked the Speer 70/71 grn .228" bullets but nowhere to be found now