Hodgdon Lil' gun powder

[Blr243]

Sold some couple of months ago. Found it and realised I had no use for it.

[mickb]

Your killing us BLLR243 actually it would have been great in your 357 mate gets about the highest energies out there.

[bigrich]

Sold some couple of months ago. Found it and realised I had no use for it.

[bigrich]

Your killing us BLLR243 actually it would have been great in your 357 mate gets about the highest energies out there.

i want it for my hornet , but it worked great for me in my 357 marlin. great accuracy and 1835fps with 158 xtp's with no preasure signs

[JohnV]

I reckon Hodgdon Lil Gun was just Winchester 296 ball powder .

[mickb]

I reckon Hodgdon Lil Gun was just Winchester 296 ball powder .

H110 is win 296, Lilgun is a different powder, All similar category for burn rates though

[Blr243]

Yes my stuff up. Sold it without realising its potential in my 357. Sold it couple of months prior to getting my Rossi 357

[JohnV]

I reckon Hodgdon Lil Gun was just Winchester 296 ball powder .

H110 is win 296, Lilgun is a different powder, All similar category for burn rates though

Hodgdon Lil Gun was a ball powder and very few companies make ball powders .

[wanneroo]

I have found in 300 Blackout and 357 Magnum that H110/W296 works better with lighter bullets and being pushed to the max. Anything less and it can be fussy and inconsistent.

Lil Gun I have found to be more forgiving and seems to work better with mid to heavier bullets.

[JohnV]

I have found in 300 Blackout and 357 Magnum that H110/W296 works better with lighter bullets and being pushed to the max. Anything less and it can be fussy and inconsistent.

Lil Gun I have found to be more forgiving and seems to work better with mid to heavier bullets.

That could just be an idiosyncrasy of your guns specs ammo included . As soon as you go to a heavier bullet you change the potential chamber pressures (
( force needed to move the bullet ) so the pressure curve is changed compared to what happens with a lighter bullet and you usually use a lesser powder load than with lighter bullets . So the phenomenon can happen using exactly the same powder in each case and those effects can also change from one gun to another and you can't compare different cartridges . Hodgdon never ever made any powder . He started in a caravan in a big paddock surrounded by drums of powder he bought from the manufacturers at wholesale prices . If Hodgdon was rebranding a ball powder in those days it's odds on it was Winchester powder .
We tend to think that the things that we experience in our equipment is the norm for everyone and that is just not the case . For an example a guy at my range has a 243 that is having extraction problems from pressure a full 4 grains under my load with no problems with the same powder .
I suspect it was a combination of things working together like, small case volume , tight chamber specs , tight bore , dirty fouled bore , hard projectiles .

[wanneroo]

I have found in 300 Blackout and 357 Magnum that H110/W296 works better with lighter bullets and being pushed to the max. Anything less and it can be fussy and inconsistent.

Lil Gun I have found to be more forgiving and seems to work better with mid to heavier bullets.

That could just be an idiosyncrasy of your guns specs ammo included . As soon as you go to a heavier bullet you change the potential chamber pressures (
( force needed to move the bullet ) so the pressure curve is changed compared to what happens with a lighter bullet and you usually use a lesser powder load than with lighter bullets . So the phenomenon can happen using exactly the same powder in each case and those effects can also change from one gun to another and you can't compare different cartridges . Hodgdon never ever made any powder . He started in a caravan in a big paddock surrounded by drums of powder he bought from the manufacturers at wholesale prices . If Hodgdon was rebranding a ball powder in those days it's odds on it was Winchester powder .
We tend to think that the things that we experience in our equipment is the norm for everyone and that is just not the case . For an example a guy at my range has a 243 that is having extraction problems from pressure a full 4 grains under my load with no problems with the same powder .
I suspect it was a combination of things working together like, small case volume , tight chamber specs , tight bore , dirty fouled bore , hard projectiles .

Could be, but that's what I have found across the board and it's replicated itself in multiple guns. As a result like with 300 Blackout, if a bullet is beyond 125g, I don't even bother using or trying H110/W296 anymore, I use Lil Gun.

[northdude]

Ive found lil gun and 296 works well in my hornets 12.5gr lil gun seems to be the number all 3 of them seem to like

[mickb]

I reckon Hodgdon Lil Gun was just Winchester 296 ball powder .

H110 is win 296, Lilgun is a different powder, All similar category for burn rates though

Hodgdon Lil Gun was a ball powder and very few companies make ball powders .

Correct, but it still isnt H110/win 296. Different powder, slightly faster burning, different load data for all calibres.