Can You Make 7.62x54r From 30-30 Brass?

[Baldrick314]

I'm looking to start reloading for 7.62x54r and most of the brass I've found is a bit expensive. I have a surplus of 30-30 brass and looking at the specs for both cartridges the only problems I can foresee is the 30-30's rim diameter is 1.5mm smaller than the 7.62 and the 30-30 is about 2mm shorter overall which shouldn't be a major problem.

Anyone know if the rim will give me major issues or know of any reason this wouldn't work?

[Silver87]

Unfortunately no you can't, those two dimension difference you mention are huge problems but not the worst. the biggest problem is the head/webb area of the case is .046" too small and would rupture on firing.

[anthillinside]

You can use 45-70 GOVT Brass but they will probably be even more expensive.

[Baldrick314]

Unfortunately no you can't, those two dimension difference you mention are huge problems but not the worst. the biggest problem is the head/webb area of the case is .046" too small and would rupture on firing.

Thanks for the heads up mate

[Baldrick314]

You can use 45-70 GOVT Brass but they will probably be even more expensive.

No doubt. I have one of those cases vs about 150 30-30

[anthillinside]

Is your Mosin getting hungry?

[Baldrick314]

Is your Mosin getting hungry?

Yeah. I only got it a couple weeks ago and I've been restoring up till now but it's almost ready to shoot. Ammo is bloody expensive for them though

[anthillinside]

Is your Mosin getting hungry?

Yeah. I only got it a couple weeks ago and I've been restoring up till now but it's almost ready to shoot. Ammo is bloody expensive for them though

My son's got one and is using Milsurp. no probs as long as you give it a good bath after shooting.
About 75c a round,not too bad

[Baldrick314]

Is your Mosin getting hungry?

Yeah. I only got it a couple weeks ago and I've been restoring up till now but it's almost ready to shoot. Ammo is bloody expensive for them though

My son's got one and is using Milsurp. no probs as long as you give it a good bath after shooting.
About 75c a round,not too bad

Yeah I wanna reload it though and don't wanna muck around with Berdan primed cases. I found 100 cases for $77 plus post so that might have to do

[anthillinside]

Yeah, Milsurps almost impossible to reload.
What brand brass did you find, if you don't mind me asking? PPU?

[Baldrick314]

Yeah, Milsurps almost impossible to reload.
What brand brass did you find, if you don't mind me asking? PPU?

I actually forgot to ask what brand but I'm pretty sure it's PRVI because I've bought that off him before in a different calibre for similar price

[1290]

looks like an investment in some virgin brass may be required... 30-30 is to small in the body apart from the rim dimension.... 45Gov too big in the rim and the body.... what kind of nugget? a carbine or a long rifle 91?

[anthillinside]

looks like an investment in some virgin brass may be required... 30-30 is to small in the body apart from the rim dimension.... 45Gov too big in the rim and the body.... what kind of nugget? a carbine or a long rifle 91?

Yeah dam site easier to buy factory brass.
A bit easier to remove metal than add it if it's your only choice

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[Baldrick314]

looks like an investment in some virgin brass may be required... 30-30 is to small in the body apart from the rim dimension.... 45Gov too big in the rim and the body.... what kind of nugget? a carbine or a long rifle 91?

Chinese type 53 carbine. Yeah I'll bite the bullet and order some fresh brass I think

[Seconds]

You could try a call to Lawrance Ordnance Baldrick.

Dunno if you've tried them already but I'm pretty sure I saw them advertising milsurp ammo on 7.62x54r a few months ago.

Maybe they still have some, or have some brass from shooting themselves, whatever.

[Baldrick314]

You could try a call to Lawrance Ordnance Baldrick.

Dunno if you've tried them already but I'm pretty sure I saw them advertising milsurp ammo on 7.62x54r a few months ago.

Maybe they still have some, or have some brass from shooting themselves, whatever.

Most milsurp stuff is Berdan primed which makes it difficult to reload. I got a couple hundred milsurp rounds for plinking but I want to eventually reload for it. Might be worth calling them to see if they have a line on some brass anyway, cheers mate

[Seconds]

No worries.

Hope it pans out.