.308 Winchester case stuck in die

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Re: .308 Winchester case stuck in die

Post by Jack V » 13 Mar 2015, 8:23 pm

Tonit wrote:
Jack V wrote:I don't know about not breaking anything . It all depends on what kind of press if it's a Lee press I would be hesitant to apply too much force.


I hear you about the open type Lee press.

Still, that's a lot of steel vs a little brass neck?

The weak part of the Lee Press is the alloy clamp lock up system of the handle it tends to go first except for the Lee classic cast it's a better press.
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Re: .308 Winchester case stuck in die

Post by melanie » 16 Mar 2015, 3:21 pm

Jack V wrote:That's why you throw the old fashioned full length sizing die into the garbage bin and buy a body die . Many problems are then solved .


Body die just has the outside? No internal pin is that right?
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Re: .308 Winchester case stuck in die

Post by Jack V » 16 Mar 2015, 3:49 pm

melanie wrote:Body die just has the outside? No internal pin is that right?


Yes ,a body die only sizes from the shoulder ( head clearance) to the main body of the case . Does not size the neck at all .

So you neck size and decap primers in a separate die . That way when the case starts to get tight to chamber you size it in the body die but you are not upsetting the neck any . Also because there is no neck sizing going on at the same time you can size a very small and precise amount .

Allows for minimum resizing to get precise case fit and reduces work hardening of the brass . Also if a case does stick in the die it's very easy to punch out .

There is other uses also.
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Re: .308 Winchester case stuck in die

Post by melanie » 18 Mar 2015, 9:20 am

Jack V wrote:Yes ,a body die only sizes from the shoulder ( head clearance) to the main body of the case . Does not size the neck at all .

So you neck size and decap primers in a separate die.


Ok, fine in theory.

Isn't it just as possible though to get it stuck in your neck sizing die when you do that step though?
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Re: .308 Winchester case stuck in die

Post by Jack V » 18 Mar 2015, 9:47 am

melanie wrote:
Jack V wrote:Yes ,a body die only sizes from the shoulder ( head clearance) to the main body of the case . Does not size the neck at all .

So you neck size and decap primers in a separate die.


Ok, fine in theory.

Isn't it just as possible though to get it stuck in your neck sizing die when you do that step though?


No theory about it , been using this system since 1969 . If you get a case stuck in a neck size die then even in the worst case you can just reef it out with the press. The neck alone does not have enough surface area or wedging ability to keep it stuck tight like the body of a case does with also the neck friction added . Also when using a body die it is better to use a Lee collet die for neck sizing so stuck cases in that die are almost impossible .
Stuck case in a body die just wack it out . All stuck case problems solved in 1969 when I made my first body die . I never called it a body die that came many years later when Redding started to make them openly for the public . Before that they made them secretly and if you knew about it you could order one because they stole the idea . I called it a shoulder bump die because the original concept was designed to adjust 7.62 Nato ammo to match chambers but straight away I could see it's use for normal re- sizing operations .
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Re: .308 Winchester case stuck in die

Post by melanie » 18 Mar 2015, 12:39 pm

Jack V wrote:If you get a case stuck in a neck size die then even in the worst case you can just reef it out with the press. The neck alone does not have enough surface area or wedging ability to keep it stuck tight like the body of a case does with also the neck friction added .


Fair enough then.
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