Collet style bullet puller slow

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Collet style bullet puller slow

Post by samf » 03 Mar 2015, 7:40 pm

Looking at some videos on the reloading press collect style bullet pullers and looks like they're real slow to use with having to strew them in and out over and over.

Is there an advantage in these over the inertia hammer which I see people do heaps faster?
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Post by Ozziammo » 03 Mar 2015, 9:40 pm

Yep, less projectile damage, less noise (if your not swearing at it), good for batches of ammo, able to control propellant, able to control the actual extraction of the proj from the case slowly.
The speed will increase once you have got into the routine, especially if you are doing heaps of the same caliber.
Down side is: a few more bits to add to your reloading kit, $ spent, damage to projectiles if they are crimped in heavily.
I don't even bother with the inertia puller anymore!
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Post by Gregg » 04 Mar 2015, 1:46 pm

The collet pullers are definitely more controlled. I feel it's a piece of mind thing though really.

The inertia hammers catch the bullet and powder all the same so there is no huge difference IMO.

Arguably the collet pullers scuff the projectiles by clamping them. On the other hand the hammers can damage the tips and the bullet is ejected from the case and flies into the inside of the hammer to catch it.
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Post by Jack V » 04 Mar 2015, 5:51 pm

Agree with all of the above , you need both types of pullers for certain jobs.
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Post by franc » 05 Mar 2015, 1:42 pm

One thing against the inertia hammers... Reports seem to be that the collet in the hammer wears out quickly. Makes the 'cheap' hammer not so cheap when they wear out fast and you need another one.
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Post by Kater » 05 Mar 2015, 1:43 pm

I haven't used but just know from looking at one that the RCBS hammer collet isn't steel. I think it's aluminium or some softish alloy.

I don't know who but if someone did a steel collet for their hammers they'd last forever.
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Post by Lorgar » 05 Mar 2015, 1:44 pm

I had an RCBS hammer, it worked great except for the problems above.

After about 80 or 90 .308 rounds the rim of the collet which held the cases sheared off.

Just lucky it happened right at the end for what I needed to unload.
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Post by bluerob » 05 Mar 2015, 2:09 pm

Kater wrote:I haven't used but just know from looking at one that the RCBS hammer collet isn't steel. I think it's aluminium or some softish alloy.

I don't know who but if someone did a steel collet for their hammers they'd last forever.


Use the shell case holder for any calibre instead of the supplied collet.
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Post by Lorgar » 05 Mar 2015, 2:48 pm

bluerob wrote:Use the shell case holder for any calibre instead of the supplied collet.


Not that it matters now but I didn't try that.

Fits without a problem, huh?
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Post by Jack V » 05 Mar 2015, 5:58 pm

The mistake some re-loaders make is they hit the inertia puller so hard to try and pull the bullet in one blow. That is not how they are meant to work .
Several light strikes will get the bullet out without wrecking the plastic puller.
When the bullets are big or have high neck tension and or crimps then forget the inertia puller go straight to the press collet puller
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Post by Chronos » 05 Mar 2015, 7:14 pm

Jack V wrote:The mistake some re-loaders make is they hit the inertia puller so hard to try and pull the bullet in one blow. That is not how they are meant to work .
Several light strikes will get the bullet out without wrecking the plastic puller.
When the bullets are big or have high neck tension and or crimps then forget the inertia puller go straight to the press collet puller


I've never bothered with a press mounted collet bullet puller, but in the hammer big bullets are much easier to remove in an inertia hammer than light bullets, .204R are notoriously difficult to "pull" using a hammer. canalures would add difficulty.

I've used an RCBS hammer for years, the old all plastic one, not the one with the steel shaft. the collets are in pretty good shape but i always do it up tight.

i have pulled lots of bullets, often changing loads and will pull old loads rather than shoot them off and waste the bullets, powder and primers

The end grain of a hard wood post is the best, quieter and less harsh on the hammer face and as jack said a few moderate taps is better than an almighty thwack!

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Post by Jack V » 05 Mar 2015, 8:18 pm

I am the same I have removed all kinds of un-crimped bullets with an inertia job but I do use a press puller for crimped Military stuff or bullets that show they are hard to move. I have seen a few inertia pullers break so I take it easy on mine and it's lasted a long time so far.
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Post by bluerob » 06 Mar 2015, 2:19 am

Lorgar wrote:
bluerob wrote:Use the shell case holder for any calibre instead of the supplied collet.


Not that it matters now but I didn't try that.

Fits without a problem, huh?


Yep. I'm using Lyman shell holders to pop 9mm and .357 that I stuff up.

Doesn't matter what brand shell holder you use.
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Post by Jack V » 06 Mar 2015, 5:32 pm

The right tool for the job is always a better outcome .
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Post by Chronos » 06 Mar 2015, 6:39 pm

Guys i just remembered these i saw on the HSS website, could be a good multi caliber tool, just remove your seating die and grip the bullet with the tool then drop the ram

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Post by Lorgar » 07 Mar 2015, 6:49 pm

Chronos wrote:I've used an RCBS hammer for years, the old all plastic one, not the one with the steel shaft. the collets are in pretty good shape but i always do it up tight.


Dunno what the go with mine was then. The hammer is fine but the collet was shredded in no time flat.

I was hitting thick bit of carpet over concrete to take the edge off the impact. Took 1-3 hits for each bullet to be removed. Wasn't trying to drive nails with the thing.... Just bounce it off the rug. Did the job anyway, except for the collet.....

Making cheaper collets these days maybe? :unknown:

Only unseating hand loads. No ancient milsurp or anything with a sealant holding them in. Just didn't last....
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Post by Hatter » 07 Mar 2015, 6:52 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Try one of these if you only need to pull a few. not sure about 5 LOL


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Post by portph » 07 Mar 2015, 6:53 pm

Chronos wrote:Guys i just remembered these i saw on the HSS website, could be a good multi caliber tool, just remove your seating die and grip the bullet with the tool then drop the ram


Looks like a good option.

A touch pricey though?
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Post by Ozziammo » 07 Mar 2015, 7:37 pm

Interesting concept, thanks for sharing,

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Post by Humir » 08 Mar 2015, 10:23 am

portph wrote:Looks like a good option.

A touch pricey though?


$60... Depends on how much you undo.

You'd only have to shoot 60 rounds you didn't really want to instead of pulling them and you'd have wasted more money than buying one.
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Post by Chronos » 08 Mar 2015, 4:36 pm

portph wrote:A touch pricey though?


$60 plus postage seems like a lot but if you had to buy a hammer at $30-50 and it broke in 5 years or a die at about $40 posted and 3 collets at $22 each plus $10 postage to cover 3 calibers you'd be way behind

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Post by Westy » 08 Mar 2015, 6:09 pm

Chronos wrote:Guys i just remembered these i saw on the HSS website, could be a good multi caliber tool, just remove your seating die and grip the bullet with the tool then drop the ram


This is new :unknown: :unknown: :unknown: might get on the phone to HSS tommorowand get me a set of these!!!!Thanks C
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Post by Chronos » 08 Mar 2015, 6:13 pm

Westy wrote:This is new :unknown: :unknown: :unknown: might get on the phone to HSS tommorowand get me a set of these!!!!Thanks C


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Post by Lorgar » 09 Mar 2015, 11:07 am

Chronos wrote:$60 plus postage seems like a lot but if you had to buy a hammer at $30-50 and it broke in 5 years


Or 100 rounds in my case :?
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