Making fun/experimental shotgun loads and legaliities

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Making fun/experimental shotgun loads and legaliities

Post by hrrl » 19 Mar 2015, 12:15 pm

I've never seen this covered on an Australian shooting forum, wonder if anyone knows.

We can reload ammo here legally, no problem. Are there any restrictions on what we can load exactly though?

Everyone's probably seen the videos on youtube where guys load all sorts of crazy s**t into shotguns shells for fun like darts, paper balls, toothpicks, matches, chains, springs, flechettes, coins, silly putty, you name it.

Is there anything that could get you in trouble for doing entertainment loads?
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Post by Jack V » 19 Mar 2015, 1:18 pm

You can't load anything that would normally be restricted , like tear gas , rubber bullets etc. after that I am not sure. The thing is that this kind of behaviour is dangerous and could put pressure on us , gives ammo to the anti's . Could also damage the bore . It's not a good idea .
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Post by brett1868 » 19 Mar 2015, 8:07 pm

If I load a mouse and use it to shoot a rat, would that be rat shot or mouse shoot?
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Post by KWhorenet » 19 Mar 2015, 8:09 pm

brett1868 wrote:If I load a mouse and use it to shoot a rat, would that be rat shot or mouse shoot?


That would be a Youtube vid you upload that I will not miss :lol:
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Post by 1290 » 20 Mar 2015, 9:06 am

Thats a valid question...and when you think about it, there probably are restrictions on projectiles that may make the rounds dangerous. :wtf: .. like potential to injuring people at the other end :lol: who would have thought it was dangerous.. or more dangerous :unknown:

But whatever is presently outlawed like, say explosive tipped say Mercury fulminate filled into the hollow pint ;) (or is that just in the moooovies?)
Things like tracers, DIY tracers.... would be fun night time shooting... but too dangerous for us :evil:

I think AP rounds are also off the list, so inserting a piece of appropriately sized tungsten or mild or hardened steel into the tip.or centre of the proj.. :? might also push you over the line of criminality...

Yootoob is full of crazy stuff... batteries loaded into 12g rounds...but the mouse loaded as rat shot... thanks brett, coffee spray in your honour :drinks: you one of the few around these parts who could actually fit a mouse in a round - picture thanks :thumbsup:

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Post by Jessie » 20 Mar 2015, 2:53 pm

This is sounding very 'frozen chicken cannon' from mythbusters :lol:
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Post by hrrl » 20 Mar 2015, 2:54 pm

Jack V wrote:You can't load anything that would normally be restricted , like tear gas , rubber bullets etc. after that I am not sure.


Not talking about gearing up for some tactical assault.

Just for the sake of fun and experimentation.
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Post by Mich » 20 Mar 2015, 2:57 pm

1290 wrote:Thats a valid question...and when you think about it, there probably are restrictions on projectiles that may make the rounds dangerous. :wtf: .. like potential to injuring people at the other end :lol: who would have thought it was dangerous.. or more dangerous :unknown:


Good thing flaming hot lead is so safe when moving 400yards a second :mrgreen:
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Post by cooker » 21 Mar 2015, 8:30 am

One with M&Ms was funny :lol:
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Post by 1290 » 21 Mar 2015, 9:16 am

cooker wrote:One with M&Ms was funny :lol:


just imagine the response from the officer..."It might be funny to YOU, but you know you could have injured someone!! :huh:
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Post by Atter » 22 Mar 2015, 8:33 am

You could have given them a delicious treat! :lol:
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Post by cooker » 22 Mar 2015, 8:33 am

I was just sharing my candy with people, Officer.

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Post by brett1868 » 24 Mar 2015, 4:41 pm

How much powder should I use? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by 1290 » 24 Mar 2015, 4:53 pm

Well... its a third load... so obviously a third charge :roll:
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Post by brett1868 » 24 Mar 2015, 5:37 pm

1290 wrote:Well... its a third load... so obviously a third charge :roll:
you are good value brother :thumbsup:


Third load, should be triple powder I thought, lighter projectile and lower pressure needs more charge. Thinking now if HBN will stick to the fur or should I moly coat him. Little bugger has been into the bird seed past couple of weeks and I finally got him last night, I've reset the trap in the hope he had some friends. I have a double barrel after all and need 2 rounds. If the missus finds this one in the freezer I'll be living at work for a few nights...All in the name of science won't hold with her.
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Post by 1290 » 24 Mar 2015, 6:39 pm

I tell you what, once you swage the bugger down to 50 cal..or 78cal for a shotty... then we'll consider loads, hey...
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Post by brett1868 » 25 Mar 2015, 1:48 am

1290 wrote:I tell you what, once you swage the bugger down to 50 cal..or 78cal for a shotty... then we'll consider loads, hey...


C.O.A.L might be a problem if I swage him down to 50, thinking I'll have to load him old school via the muzzle with a ram in the shotty. I'm definitely going to need more mice If any meaningful load development is to be done. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by sarki » 25 Mar 2015, 10:26 am

The little guy looks excited to be part of the experiment.

Smile on this face? :lol:
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Post by pracshooter » 26 Mar 2015, 11:03 pm

Two words: public liability. Any average lawyer for anyone injured by your actions would have you for dinner. As would your insurance company denying any claim you attempted to make for any injury caused to yourself. I guess it depends on how keen you are to do stupid things.
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Post by Pilch » 27 Mar 2015, 12:16 pm

pracshooter wrote:Two words: public liability.


Be careful shooting your mice Brett :lol:
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