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Post by Baldrick314 » 16 Mar 2016, 3:48 pm

I just got a copy of QuickLOAD, haven't had a chance to read the manual much less turn it on yet but I was wondering if anyone else here is using it and if there's any tips or tricks a new user should know before playing with it. Also if you are using how accurate has it been for you? How close to your loads has its predictions been?
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Re: Quickload

Post by TheDude » 16 Mar 2016, 4:47 pm

I use it in conjunction with the Optimal barrel time calculator to work out approximate accuracy nodes.

You will need to tweak a few settings to get its predictions close to real world results.

Adjust H2O capacity of a few fired cases and put in the average. Case length, projectile length (average of a few) might need adjustment along with barrel length and seating depth. This will get you close.

The other setting is powder burn rate. Lots can vary by 5%. Fire a few rounds over a chrony. You then need to adjust the burn rate Until predicted velocity is close to actual results. If you're loads are touching the lands you may need to also tweak the starting pressure value. Burn rate changes will vary for different cartridges.

This has a Good guide http://www.6mmbr.com/quickload.html
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Re: Quickload

Post by Baldrick314 » 16 Mar 2016, 6:04 pm

Thank you Dude! Hopefully I'll get a chance to play with over the next few days :)
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Re: Quickload

Post by Gwion » 16 Mar 2016, 6:29 pm

Hey Dude, do you find it saves a lot of work in load development?

I've eyed it off a couple of times thinking it might actually save a fair bit of money in materials in the mid-long term. Not cheap to buy, though.
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Re: Quickload

Post by TheDude » 16 Mar 2016, 8:05 pm

yeah, it was a bit steep to buy but i think it has helped with finding ballpark accuracy nodes without doing a full workup. i load for 12 different cals plus have used it to help work up loads for my Sister and Brother-in-laws rifles so across them all has saved a bit of time/components.

its also interesting modelling differences in barrel length or determining velocity/pressure changes with the different powders.
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Re: Quickload

Post by Gwion » 17 Mar 2016, 6:52 am

Cheers, Dude. I think it would be worthwhile at some stage.
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Re: Quickload

Post by Baldrick314 » 18 Mar 2016, 9:31 am

Finally got a chance to play with QuickLOAD today. The only info I changed was the capacity of my case, trim length, overall length, projectile length and the ambient temperature. The result the program gave me was a muzzle velocity of 2567fps. My actual chronographed velocities with this load averaged 2582fps measured approximately 8 feet from the muzzle. That's pretty bloody close.

I still only understand the very basic functions of this program but I'm suitably impressed. If I get a chance today I'm going to load up some rounds for my 308 of varying seating depths to test tomorrow, it will be interesting to see how my results match up with QuickLOAD's predictions.
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Re: Quickload

Post by Supporter » 18 Mar 2016, 3:11 pm

Baldrick314 wrote:I still only understand the very basic functions of this program but I'm suitably impressed.


I had a brief dabble with it a while ago.

Promptly got lost and confused lol
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Re: Quickload

Post by Varmtr » 19 Mar 2016, 12:14 pm

Is there anywhere here that have the latest version or only from the US of A.
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Re: Quickload

Post by Baldrick314 » 20 Mar 2016, 9:21 am

Varmtr wrote:Is there anywhere here that have the latest version or only from the US of A.


I bought mine through the Neconos site. I think that the bloke who runs Aussie Copper Projectiles is now a distributor, I didn't look but I doubt adding an extra set of hands to the process lowers the cost. There's also a UK site, no idea if it's cheaper but again I doubt it
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Re: Quickload

Post by 5Tom » 30 Mar 2016, 12:18 am

I use quickload but don't have access to a chrony. Would it or could it be possible to use the same powder burn rate as someone else who has chronographed their handloads? Say if I load 2206H and someone else adjusted their QL to match their velocity, wouldn't the burn rate be almost the same since we both use the same powder?
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Re: Quickload

Post by TheDude » 31 Mar 2016, 7:44 am

you really only get the benefits of Quickload by tuning the estimated values with real world results. You'd need a calculated burn rate from someone for the same cartridge and similar loads as it can change as volume and pressure increases. Even then lot to lot variation between bottles of powder could still throw the results out a little
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Re: Quickload

Post by Lyam » 31 Mar 2016, 2:23 pm

Baldrick314 wrote:haven't had a chance to read the manual much less turn it on yet but I was wondering if anyone else here is using it and if there's any tips or tricks a new user should know before playing with it.


Will I be "that guy" who says to read the manual? :lol:

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Re: Quickload

Post by WayneO » 31 Mar 2016, 6:52 pm

Been using if for a few years now and its the best thing i ever started using for reloading. It's a bugger to start using and you have to use YouTube and read the instructions and ask questions and make mistakes.
But once you get the hang of it and understand it, its pure magic.
I got my Inter-Arms .243 down from 1" at 100 to 15 mm at 100 and 1" at 200. Purely because the chamber is 6 mm longer than standard. I also increased the load to 4 grains above maximum and i have zero signs of pressure.
These are two things i would have been very reluctant to do without the use of quickloads.
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Re: Quickload

Post by Baldrick314 » 03 Apr 2016, 6:47 am

5Tom wrote:I use quickload but don't have access to a chrony. Would it or could it be possible to use the same powder burn rate as someone else who has chronographed their handloads? Say if I load 2206H and someone else adjusted their QL to match their velocity, wouldn't the burn rate be almost the same since we both use the same powder?


The problem is that the powder varies lot to lot, which is why you have to tune it in the first place. If your mate was using the same batch of powder than it would work
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Re: Quickload

Post by Baldrick314 » 03 Apr 2016, 6:49 am

Lyam wrote:Will I be "that guy" who says to read the manual? :lol:

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:lol: yeah I did get around to reading I before I used the program, I'm sure there's still a few tricks I don't know though
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Re: Quickload

Post by Gregg » 08 Apr 2016, 1:35 pm

The problem with a lot of the powerful software is the manuals are just as f***ing complicated :lol:
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