First time reloading

[AZZA'S HJ47]

So today was the day i started my reloading journey. With the crap weather that was around today i thought i should have a crack. Set up my dies resized and decaped checked everything twice. Fired up the stainless tumbler i new they worked well but didnt think that well. I was primming the cases mostly ppu shells no big deal i had 20 geco cases man were the primers hard (er) to get home has anyone else reloaded Geco or had the same issue i dont have any concerns. Just though it was odd

[Squiddy]

Daaaaaaaaayum, shiny!

When you say stainless tumbler do you mean stainless media?

[AZZA'S HJ47]

Stainless wet tumbler got it from Aussie sapphire on the sunshine coast gave it about two hours they look better than brand new even the pockets were spotless. Highly recommended.

[Oldbloke]

Any bower bird would love them.

[COLLECTOR 1]

What calibre...?????.... Greco brass is or has a very "tight" primer pocket.... May explain your delima?????

Collector 1

[Mongrel]

damn there shiny.
I just checked out there site, you said its on the sunny coast, but when i checked there site it says nsw?

[juststarting]

Okay, that does it. Meanwhile, my tumbler has quite literally un-tumbled itself. Moved it and there were bolts just sitting there underneath it! I am getting a wet tumbler!

[AZZA'S HJ47]

damn there shiny.
I just checked out there site, you said its on the sunny coast, but when i checked there site it says nsw?

They may be nsw i thought they were up north i got one of there kits off ebay. 10/10

What calibre...?????.... Greco brass is or has a very "tight" primer pocket.... May explain your delima?????

Collector 1

243win like i said it felt not crazy tight just more positive. The ppu primers seem to almost fall in. What are you thoughts on the geco brass?

[pomemax]

what sort of press will u be using
these may help http://www.midwayusa.com/product/235832 ... er-combo-2

[AZZA'S HJ47]

what sort of press will u be using
these may help http://www.midwayusa.com/product/235832 ... er-combo-2

Have thought about that may need it at some point down the road. Ince again there tight but not crimped from what i could see

[brett1868]

Another convert to wet tumbling I see, once wet you'll never go back to dry. One tip, debur and chamfer post tumbling / drying cause the wet tumbling tends to knock the mouths around a bit though more an issue on the bigger cases. Forget the tin foil lined trays in the oven...get yourself a Sunbeam DT6000 Food dehydrator. I use one for everything from 9mm up to 50BMG, only mod was to buy some aluminium flywire, cut it to size then tie into the trays with fuse wire so the 9mm brass didn't fall through the try. Can dry 2500-3500 9mm cases at a time and I generally give them 8hrs overnight. As a bonus it can dry fruits or make jerky

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[bluerob]

Another convert to wet tumbling I see, once wet you'll never go back to dry. One tip, debur and chamfer post tumbling / drying cause the wet tumbling tends to knock the mouths around a bit though more an issue on the bigger cases. Forget the tin foil lined trays in the oven...get yourself a Sunbeam DT6000 Food dehydrator. I use one for everything from 9mm up to 50BMG, only mod was to buy some aluminium flywire, cut it to size then tie into the trays with fuse wire so the 9mm brass didn't fall through the try. Can dry 2500-3500 9mm cases at a time and I generally give them 8hrs overnight. As a bonus it can dry fruits or make jerky

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Did you tell the wife these work well with Piroshki?

Bastard!

[AZZA'S HJ47]

Another convert to wet tumbling I see, once wet you'll never go back to dry. One tip, debur and chamfer post tumbling / drying cause the wet tumbling tends to knock the mouths around a bit though more an issue on the bigger cases. Forget the tin foil lined trays in the oven...get yourself a Sunbeam DT6000 Food dehydrator. I use one for everything from 9mm up to 50BMG, only mod was to buy some aluminium flywire, cut it to size then tie into the trays with fuse wire so the 9mm brass didn't fall through the try. Can dry 2500-3500 9mm cases at a time and I generally give them 8hrs overnight. As a bonus it can dry fruits or make jerky

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Brett
As much as i envey the s**t out of your stuff i sadly fall into the relm of a Mechanic as of today i am the foreman of myself. The pays s**t and think i need to start selling crack on the side. Ive watched breaking bad and think i rectify some of the issues he ran into with ease

[bluerob]

Another convert to wet tumbling I see, once wet you'll never go back to dry. One tip, debur and chamfer post tumbling / drying cause the wet tumbling tends to knock the mouths around a bit though more an issue on the bigger cases. Forget the tin foil lined trays in the oven...get yourself a Sunbeam DT6000 Food dehydrator. I use one for everything from 9mm up to 50BMG, only mod was to buy some aluminium flywire, cut it to size then tie into the trays with fuse wire so the 9mm brass didn't fall through the try. Can dry 2500-3500 9mm cases at a time and I generally give them 8hrs overnight. As a bonus it can dry fruits or make jerky

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Brett
As much as i envey the s**t out of your stuff i sadly fall into the relm of a Mechanic as of today i am the foreman of myself. The pays s**t and think i need to start selling crack on the side. Ive watched breaking bad and think i rectify some of the issues he ran into with ease

Me too.

You can use his oven for nefarious purposes too!

Happy Days for all.

[happyhunter]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

[brett1868]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

Clean brass is happy brass and happy brass performs better

[POD89]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

Clean brass is happy brass and happy brass performs better

and its pretty to look at....

[AZZA'S HJ47]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

Clean brass is happy brass and happy brass performs better

Perhaps Brett will hire out his reloading room, bear in mind from what i gather id have to have roughly 2500-4000 cases to get in. It took me almost 6 months to get 100

[Oldbloke]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

We have a few bower birds here.

[AZZA'S HJ47]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

It looks great isnt that reason enough the old brass looked pre tumbling looked rather dirty finished up with brass cleaner than when i bought it. Plus the theory of its surgically clean its not going to potentially foul or damage anything

[bluerob]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

Clean brass is happy brass and happy brass performs better

and its pretty to look at....

And a bit easier to find splits when you're about to dump 1000 cases into a tub.

[happyhunter]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

Clean brass is happy brass and happy brass performs better

I understand clean brass. I use an ultrasonic cleaner for that, but it is the obsession with getting to shine that seems a waste of effort and time.

[brett1868]

A bit more of a serious answer, clean brass is an aid to consistency which is key to precision. By starting with brass that's surgically clean both inside and out you are removing a few variables. Carbon build up within the primer pocket can lead to inconsistent seating depths and flash patern into case. Carbon build up within the case will affect the "Burn" differently which leads to variations in velocity and therefore precision. Carbon build up on the case neck / shoulder will affect case clamping force on the chamber and impact velocity, leading to lower precision. I'm chasing less than 10fps deviation per 5 shot group which takes a huge amount of prep to achieve (in the calibres I shoot), my best so far is 15fps standard deviation (5 shot) though I can get that consistently. Case prep is but a part of a larger process, Bullet prep is just as time consuming but that's a whole other topic.

[bluerob]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

Clean brass is happy brass and happy brass performs better

I understand clean brass. I use an ultrasonic cleaner for that, but it is the obsession with getting to shine that seems a waste of effort and time.

I've got alot of time on my hands these days, so, spending say 2-3 hours tumbling brass isn't a big deal, as such. I just turn it on and check it after 2 or 3 hours.

I'm looking for a 2 or 3 transducer ultrasonic cleaner that'll do both pistols and brass (not at the same time), but, I've smashed my bank account buying guns and reloading gear after getting out of shooting. Lucky there's no wife looking over my shoulder (Hi Brett ). I'm currently saving for a Schmidt & Bender scope.

I'm not worried about looking "nice & shiney" but more so for damaged cases. Just makes it bit easier to see cracked or split brass. That's my idea.

I've usually got enough spare brass to load for a few days at the range......

[TheDude]

Wet tumbling really doesn't take that long. I tumble my black powder cases as soon as I get home from the range and let them run while cleaning the rifles. Have to do the snider separate to the 45-70 and 577/450 as the smaller cases get stuck in the snider brass and don't clean as well.

For smokeless I have a few batches of brass for each cal and just throw a batch in to tumble for a few hours while I'm loading something else. Can load up a 100+ rounds while the cases are tumbling. Only takes a few minutes to sort the cases out from the pins for a rinse off and put them out to dry when they are done.

[happyhunter]

Why the obsession with shiny brass?

Clean brass is happy brass and happy brass performs better

I understand clean brass. I use an ultrasonic cleaner for that, but it is the obsession with getting to shine that seems a waste of effort and time.

I've got alot of time on my hands these days, so, spending say 2-3 hours tumbling brass isn't a big deal, as such. I just turn it on and check it after 2 or 3 hours.

I'm looking for a 2 or 3 transducer ultrasonic cleaner that'll do both pistols and brass (not at the same time), but, I've smashed my bank account buying guns and reloading gear after getting out of shooting. Lucky there's no wife looking over my shoulder (Hi Brett ). I'm currently saving for a Schmidt & Bender scope.

I'm not worried about looking "nice & shiney" but more so for damaged cases. Just makes it bit easier to see cracked or split brass. That's my idea.

I've usually got enough spare brass to load for a few days at the range......

My guns are for hunting so I'm only loading 100 cases at a time per rifle so it's not a huge effort. I do the normal deburr of flash holes and uniform the primer pockets when the brass is new then use the ultrasonic cleaner for each cycle and find it does a nice job as long as you don't the drying time. Each case gets inspected before trimming and priming and in two decades of reloading I haven't had any disasters.. yet

[wanneroo]

A clean and shiny brass doesn't require that much effort to and makes it easier to find flaws in brass. I use a wet tumbler, distilled water, stainless pins, citric acid and a splash of Hornady case cleaning solution. Put that on for 2 hours and you've cleaned out primer pocket residue, buildup inside and outside of the case. Rinse in water and into the brass dryer for an hour and a half.

I've used an ultrasonic cleaner and that is OK but the tumbler is the best and scrubs the cases clean better.

Starting out I was on a budget and just tooling up for reloading so I simply used a 5 gallon bucket and the solution above and stirred with a broomstick. Got a good workout and it got the brass clean enough to load.

[AZZA'S HJ47]

A clean and shiny brass doesn't require that much effort to and makes it easier to find flaws in brass. I use a wet tumbler, distilled water, stainless pins, citric acid and a splash of Hornady case cleaning solution. Put that on for 2 hours and you've cleaned out primer pocket residue, buildup inside and outside of the case. Rinse in water and into the brass dryer for an hour and a half.

I've used an ultrasonic cleaner and that is OK but the tumbler is the best and scrubs the cases clean better.

Starting out I was on a budget and just tooling up for reloading so I simply used a 5 gallon bucket and the solution above and stirred with a broomstick. Got a good workout and it got the brass clean enough to load.

a broom stick
I had to wait quite a while for my licence so i had a lot of time to save for reloading gear. Best bit of gear I've bought and on the plus side im really enjoying the reloading process and the finer details.

Definitely have to experiment with cleaning products for the tumbler see what works best

[bluerob]

A clean and shiny brass doesn't require that much effort to and makes it easier to find flaws in brass. I use a wet tumbler, distilled water, stainless pins, citric acid and a splash of Hornady case cleaning solution. Put that on for 2 hours and you've cleaned out primer pocket residue, buildup inside and outside of the case. Rinse in water and into the brass dryer for an hour and a half.

I've used an ultrasonic cleaner and that is OK but the tumbler is the best and scrubs the cases clean better.

Starting out I was on a budget and just tooling up for reloading so I simply used a 5 gallon bucket and the solution above and stirred with a broomstick. Got a good workout and it got the brass clean enough to load.

a broom stick
I had to wait quite a while for my licence so i had a lot of time to save for reloading gear. Best bit of gear I've bought and on the plus side im really enjoying the reloading process and the finer details.

Definitely have to experiment with cleaning products for the tumbler see what works best

One of the "old blokes" in my club buys pearl barley from Woolworths and cheap car polish from SuperCheap. His brass is as as clean as mine and I'm using the Lyman Corn Cob which is about $50 per bottle.

If I remember, I'll grab some and give this a go. Alot cheaper than buying media.

[TheDude]

A clean and shiny brass doesn't require that much effort to and makes it easier to find flaws in brass. I use a wet tumbler, distilled water, stainless pins, citric acid and a splash of Hornady case cleaning solution. Put that on for 2 hours and you've cleaned out primer pocket residue, buildup inside and outside of the case. Rinse in water and into the brass dryer for an hour and a half.

I've used an ultrasonic cleaner and that is OK but the tumbler is the best and scrubs the cases clean better.

Starting out I was on a budget and just tooling up for reloading so I simply used a 5 gallon bucket and the solution above and stirred with a broomstick. Got a good workout and it got the brass clean enough to load.

a broom stick
I had to wait quite a while for my licence so i had a lot of time to save for reloading gear. Best bit of gear I've bought and on the plus side im really enjoying the reloading process and the finer details.

Definitely have to experiment with cleaning products for the tumbler see what works best

The MP-103 burnishing compound that Aussie sapphire sell works great. Couple of spoonfuls even on the really dirty black powder cases gets them cleaner than new.