Mongrel wrote:Ok so ive been into shooting for around a few months and now its time i look into reloading.
Im gonna get the LEE BREECH LOCK CHALLENGER KIT. From youtube it looks like it will do the job fine.
So my question is, which dies do i get?
the 4 die set from lee( i only want to neck size) so im not sure on these
or better of just getting the dies i need or are there better brands to use?
TIA Mongrel
p.s. forgot to mention its for my 308
bladeracer wrote:Mongrel wrote:Ok so ive been into shooting for around a few months and now its time i look into reloading.
Im gonna get the LEE BREECH LOCK CHALLENGER KIT. From youtube it looks like it will do the job fine.
So my question is, which dies do i get?
the 4 die set from lee( i only want to neck size) so im not sure on these
or better of just getting the dies i need or are there better brands to use?
TIA Mongrel
p.s. forgot to mention its for my 308
I've got the Challenger Breech Lock Press, brilliant bit of kit.
Lee Collet Dies, only sizes the necks, no lube required, terrific case life.
Eventually you might want to get a full-length die if your cases stretch due to hot loads.
Get the Lee Quick-Trim Die as well, trims your cases to length in seconds.
Gamerancher wrote:G'day Mongrel
That kit has everything you'll need to get started in reloading. Yes you can buy better reloading gear but for what you want that kit is more than adequate and cannot be beaten fro value for money. Get the Lee 4 die set and you're good to go. See if they will throw in the latest ADI reloading book for you. Start with conservative loads and work up. Maximum loads are just that-MAXIMUM. You'll find best accuracy is usually achieve well before then anyway.
Mongrel wrote:Thanks Blade...great news the challenger kit is good
I just looked online at my LGS website and couldnt find Lee collet die sets?
They have a few dif varities of dies but atm its all mumbo jumbo to me lol
Mongrel wrote:After doing some googling, the 4 set dies from LEE http://leeprecision.com/308-win-ultimate-die-set.html
do come with a collet die aswel as a full length one. its $96 so that might be the way to go.
plus a couple of breech lock things so i dont have to adjust all the time.
Gamerancher wrote:See if they will throw in the latest ADI reloading book for you. Start with conservative loads and work up. Maximum loads are just that-MAXIMUM. You'll find best accuracy is usually achieve well before then anyway.
Wm.Traynor wrote:Regarding that kit, does he really need a crimp die? If it was omitted and the parts bought separately, would not the price be lower?
Gamerancher wrote:Considering he is only a new shooter and it will be his first foray into reloading, I was trying to steer him towards the conservative end. I've seen plenty of fella's get caught out trying to start at the maximum end of load data.
Supaduke wrote:I have personally found all the reputable die brands to be same same. Redding, RCBS, Lee, Hornady all seem ,to me , to make good accurate ammo.
deadkitty wrote:I bought the same kit from Midway via ebay, just added the collet die this week, but the standard Lee die set has been giving me good results ....for a novice reloader like myself.... I did improve groups by using the crimping die....still aiming for a load that gives me the almost mythical one ragged hole though. .223 Savage 50gr Vmax, best powder so far is 2206H
deadkitty wrote:Bill, yep you're right of course, but I really enjoy reloading in between shooting the odd dog, fox and cat, A guy needs a hobby....other than shooting fishing and chasing the missus around the house.....
wanneroo wrote:I find with Lee that some of their stuff is great and good value for the money and some is not so great. I still use their dies for 9mm and 45 ACP. RCBS is ok but I find their dies fiddly to adjust and have started migrating over to Forster and Redding dies for rifle and I am much happier. Forster and Redding cost more but are easy to adjust and seem to have that extra bit of precision and quality of the materials
Gamerancher wrote:Well said Bill, I've seen blokes trying to get a "cheap" hunting rifle to shoot miracle one hole groups. Once in a while they almost fluke one, most of the time they don't.
The benchrest boys spend upwards of $5-6k on a rifle, over a grand on rests and then many years/shots learning how to load, tune and read wind to shoot tiny groups.
Anything around an inch @ 100m is more than adequate for hunting purposes.
bigfellascott wrote:Buy yourself a copy of Nick Harveys Reloading Manual, lots of great info there to help you get going and all the local powder brands and load data to suit.