223 load data for adi powders

[dasko]

Hi All,
So i am new to the reloading game and own a tikka t3x lite in 223 with a 1:8 twist.
I have these powders , Benchmark2 , Benchmark 8208 , and AR2208
my projectiles thus far are hornady v-z max 55gr , seirra blitzkings 55gr BT , seirra blitzkings 69gr BT
primmers are cci400 and remington small 6-1/2
cases are remingtong from the bag ready to go
lube is hornady case wax.

if you are using similar with sucess please let me know your powder and weights for min and max please ....

[duncan61]

I use 2208 in my .222 and found that minimum loads shoot accurate and do the job.I load 22.2 gr under a 50 gr PSP win.ADI data for .223 is 55 GR. AR2208 22.8 2996 47600 psi 24.0 C 3134 53300 psi

[Gwion]

I have found BM8208 to go very well with 40, 50 & 55gn bullets. Better consistency than BM2, which was also pretty good. As always, work up your own loads for your own rifle.

[Oldbloke]

I am using AR2208 223 23.5 g 55g Hornady abt 3000 fps. Mild but accurate. Haven't tried other powders.
Also AR2208 44.1 g 180g Hornady in my 30 06 for about 2550 fps. AR2208 is a pretty versatile powder.

[duncan61]

36gr in .243 80g pill for 3000 and 56gr in 7mm rem 100g pill for 3300.I use 2213sc in the 7mm for 168g target rounds.2208 is very versatile

[happyhunter]

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[pomemax]

http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloade ... on_WEB.pdf i found this site usfull just print of he page you need 223 starts in rifle on page 87

[duncan61]

I have not chronographed but am estimating around 2800.I developed the load on kangaroo heads.On big western gray males it does not go completely through but blows about a tennis ball size out the brain box.Red roos have much softer bones and are smaller so full penetration happens but I doubt much lead or copper would be left on the other side.I have little to no muzzle flash at night so it does not spook the roos standing around.It is not noisy like the crack you get with 2207.I started using 2207 when I first started handloading to get that speed you mention.I have done maybe 100 roos with a .243 but the factory discarded a few as if you hit them a bit low in the neck it bruises all the shoulder area.I used to put the .243 on the dash when travelling in the afternoon to an area for the long shots that occur. In May in the Gascoyne it can be quite cool so I would start about 4.00pm.I hit one crouched down looking at me from about 150m and the projectile went down the spinal column and ruined the whole animal.When I was new I loaded 52 grain target bullets to be more accurate but I had a lot of roos get up on the way to collect them.They have an extended nasal cavity and you hear the thud and they drop but hop off.The target bullet has gone right through.The pointed soft points I use now are more humane and destroy the brain cavity.By pure luck at 100m the highland or PPU 50 grainers go through the same hole as my handloads and I rate the brass most highly for reloading.I lose about 3 cases every time I do 100 but human error is about half that.I know the .222 is quite capable when tuned up but mine is a work tool.Get within 100m or dont take the shot up north I was getting to 40m or so before shooting

[duncan61]

I am on a roll here cause I went fishing at the beach and got a small salmon 440mm and a big tailor 480mm and a heap of big herring.I have gone out with the kangaroo superstars with their cranked up .223 and seen them drop roos at 200-250 metres and get a heap but then blow an hour looking for them and leave them dead on the ground when they cant find them.Not hard to find them a few days later with the stink then for some reason there are no roos in the area.I learned to take one at a time and drive straight to it.Then I would drop the green its already hanging or with in an hour the belly would distend with all the gasses and you will pop it when you put a knife to it.I have seen blokes vomit when they get a face full of half digested grass and stomach gas cos they were in a hurry and waited 3 hours to process.I have been told by a 16 year old girl its only pet food when the shooter drops the headless neck end in the dirt every time cos he guts them real quick and I do it too slow and seen her crying 2 weeks later cos the factory would not pay them cos all the roos were to far gone to use for pet food.Many people buy pet grade kangaroo for consumption cos they like it or its all they can afford.All meat and fish should be treated well .If it goes off freezing it will not fix it.Its like laying bricks you have to do the hours to make any money.So many shooters I have worked with think you can make a days pay shooting to midnight.I am starting to rave.This is why my .222 does 2800 peacefully.If I want to go hard I will put some 100gr crackers in my 7mm rem mag and belt them at 3300.

[happyhunter]

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[Mitch]

I use 2208 in my .222 and found that minimum loads shoot accurate and do the job.I load 22.2 gr under a 50 gr PSP win. ADI data for .223 is 55 GR. AR2208 22.8 2996 47600 psi 24.0 C 3134 53300 psi

That is wrong.

ADI for a 55gn Soft Point with AR2208 is 25.5gn up to 27.5gn

[Gwion]

Start with a published minimum charge for your chosen powder and bullet weight and work up from there.

Following someone else's claimed data from some Internet forum is foolhardy, bordering on idiotic.

[Medic]

I have tried both 2208/2209 and 2206H, the H is the best powder ive found for everything except the 243. 223 I load 24.5g 2206H and its awesome in a Howa. 55grainers I personally feel want to be driven lightning fast. 2208 I have seen not burning all its charge in the barrel of a 22-250 so I use 2206H for 223 and 308. I use 35g 2208 with 87g hornady BT to awesome affect with my Browning A bolt III. Best combo I've found yet. For your 223 just use sierra super roo, they are an amazingly effective and accurate pill and dirt cheap.

[kabang]

Try This for your .223 Rem

I have a Tikka T3 Varmint which has shot approx 800 rounds, I tried 55gr HPBT Sierra / 60gr V-Max / 60 gr FB Varmint Berger / 69 gr HP Sierra they all shot well, however my favourite is the 60gr Berger loaded with 24 grains of AR2206H which produces around the 2850 FPS mark.

[Mitch]

Start with a published minimum charge for your chosen powder and bullet weight and work up from there.

Following someone else's claimed data from some Internet forum is foolhardy, bordering on idiotic.

Agreed

Alao if you dont have it just google "adi handloaders guide"

There will be one link to a PDF that you can save of their load data.

[duncan61]

I got it from ADI chart maybe I got it wrong

[duncan61]

I just checked it again the chart is telling stories not good

[dasko]

thanks allot for all your replies , plenty there to look into, just for the record i do own the ADI load book and the modern reloading latest edition. it just helps to see what other guys have found effective.
once again thanks , ill try some loads and respond here..

cheers jase

[Garth]

I use2207 seems shoot well or 2208

[WaltzingMatilda]

Dasco,

I've done a lot of load development for both field (on farm) and target (Field Rifle and Service Rifle competition) use for my Rem 700 SPS .223. 1 in 9 twist. 26 inch Barrel with about a 3400 round count.

I personally would not waste time with the z-max projectiles but I'd suggest the following:

Field loads to 300m and target loads for <200 m. Sierra Super Roo 55 gn (Gameking) projectiles over 24.5 gn Benchmark 8208, COAL 57.2 mm (5 thousandths off the lands for my rifle). I use ADI brass for all field loads, you won't get better for the price with very consistent case volume. CCI 400 primers are great but go for the CCI BR 4's if you can.

For target loads out to 600 (Service, Sniper and Field Rifle) I use 69 gn Sierra HPBT projectiles over 23 gn Benchmark 2, COAL 57.82 mm Lapua brass and CCI BR primers.

Both loads will shoot around 0.5 to 0.8 MOA in my rifle. I don't expect the 55 gn projectiles to perform as well as the 69 gn projectiles beyond about 200 m. The Sierra Super Roo Projectiles are awesome, however I do sort them by weight.

As always, make sure you start with low powder charge weights (visit the ADI webpage), determine your own COAL by finding the lands or using published SAAMI specs and work up from there. Remember that no two rifles are the same and load development is part of the fun.

Walt.

[Gwion]

Nothing wrong with Z-max. I'm about to order another 500.

[Garth]

2207 or 2208 is good stuff