on_one_wheel wrote:Lets see some pricing.
Here's my .223 costs.
1000 Winchester small primers. $65 / 1000
ADI 2208 Powder $50 / 500 grams
Hornady Z max 55 grain $155 / 500
So for my 25.5 grain loads the cost is
(assuming the brass is free)
Powder 41c
Projectile 31c
Primer 6.5c
Total 78.5 cents per round
If my calculations are correct
sungazer wrote:Plus the cost of the brass which isn't free and the barrel wear if you shoot a lot.
on_one_wheel wrote:Lets see some pricing.
Tripod wrote:on_one_wheel wrote:Lets see some pricing.
Here's my .223 costs.
1000 Winchester small primers. $65 / 1000
ADI 2208 Powder $50 / 500 grams
Hornady Z max 55 grain $155 / 500
So for my 25.5 grain loads the cost is
(assuming the brass is free)
Powder 41c
Projectile 31c
Primer 6.5c
Total 78.5 cents per round
If my calculations are correct
powder works out to 18c actually
on_one_wheel wrote:Tripod wrote:on_one_wheel wrote:Lets see some pricing.
Here's my .223 costs.
1000 Winchester small primers. $65 / 1000
ADI 2208 Powder $50 / 500 grams
Hornady Z max 55 grain $155 / 500
So for my 25.5 grain loads the cost is
(assuming the brass is free)
Powder 41c
Projectile 31c
Primer 6.5c
Total 78.5 cents per round
If my calculations are correct
powder works out to 18c actually
Ok ... I just crunched the numbers again
7716 grains per 500 grams for 5000 cents
5000 ÷ 7716 = 0.648 cents per grain, times 25.5 grains = 16.52 cents worth of powder per round
Thanks Tripod, You've just saved me a massive 24.5 cents per round !!!
bladeracer wrote:Otherwise, buy your rifle powders in 4kg bottles, much cheaper than the 500gm ones.
d3driver wrote:bladeracer wrote:Otherwise, buy your rifle powders in 4kg bottles, much cheaper than the 500gm ones.
Can you point me to where I can find a 4kg bottle at an appreciably cheaper price per gram than a 500g? using the reloading calculator spreadsheet, and all the places I have found so far with pricing available, the difference between buying 500g and 4kg is about 2-3c per load...
Ta
bladeracer wrote:d3driver wrote:bladeracer wrote:Otherwise, buy your rifle powders in 4kg bottles, much cheaper than the 500gm ones.
Can you point me to where I can find a 4kg bottle at an appreciably cheaper price per gram than a 500g? using the reloading calculator spreadsheet, and all the places I have found so far with pricing available, the difference between buying 500g and 4kg is about 2-3c per load...
Ta
Just ask your dealer to order it for you.
I pay $375 for 4kg of AR2206H.
I pay around $60 for 500gm bottles. If you're paying well under $50 then stick with the 500gm bottles, they're easier to store.
d3driver wrote:bladeracer wrote:Otherwise, buy your rifle powders in 4kg bottles, much cheaper than the 500gm ones.
Can you point me to where I can find a 4kg bottle at an appreciably cheaper price per gram than a 500g? using the reloading calculator spreadsheet, and all the places I have found so far with pricing available, the difference between buying 500g and 4kg is about 2-3c per load...
Ta
bigfellascott wrote:What's so hard about storing 4kg bottles compared to 500g ones?
bladeracer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:What's so hard about storing 4kg bottles compared to 500g ones?
The size of the 4kg bottle. It takes up a lot more room than a 500gm bottle
bigfellascott wrote:Ya need a better storage setup then - I've got 3 storage cabinets for all my ammo and powder etc. Only real prob with 4kg is the need to spend around $400 for the bloody things (500g isn't so hard on the wallet which is good for those who can't find $400 up front so to speak) but the other good thing about buying in bulk is you lock the price in and don't have to suffer the cost increases which seem to be just going Nth all the time sadly. I was lucky and bought a couple of 4kg bottles for $260 a few years back so won't be needing to buy any for some time (going to be a bitch when I have to buy more going by the price rises
bladeracer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Ya need a better storage setup then - I've got 3 storage cabinets for all my ammo and powder etc. Only real prob with 4kg is the need to spend around $400 for the bloody things (500g isn't so hard on the wallet which is good for those who can't find $400 up front so to speak) but the other good thing about buying in bulk is you lock the price in and don't have to suffer the cost increases which seem to be just going Nth all the time sadly. I was lucky and bought a couple of 4kg bottles for $260 a few years back so won't be needing to buy any for some time (going to be a bitch when I have to buy more going by the price rises
Storage is a never-ending problem
bigfellascott wrote:It certainly can be, lockable filing cabinets are great and can be had fairly cheaply.
bladeracer wrote:d3driver wrote:bladeracer wrote:Otherwise, buy your rifle powders in 4kg bottles, much cheaper than the 500gm ones.
Can you point me to where I can find a 4kg bottle at an appreciably cheaper price per gram than a 500g? using the reloading calculator spreadsheet, and all the places I have found so far with pricing available, the difference between buying 500g and 4kg is about 2-3c per load...
Ta
Just ask your dealer to order it for you.
I pay $375 for 4kg of AR2206H.
I pay around $60 for 500gm bottles. If you're paying well under $50 then stick with the 500gm bottles, they're easier to store.
sungazer wrote:That is BS you LGS will have a 20-30kg limit due to worksafe so they dont like to keep a big qty that may not sell quickly in stock as it limits there other stock. The same restrictions don't apply to individuals. Try here http://www.riflesa.asn.au/price_lists/powder.htm
on_one_wheel wrote:sungazer wrote:That is BS you LGS will have a 20-30kg limit due to worksafe so they dont like to keep a big qty that may not sell quickly in stock as it limits there other stock. The same restrictions don't apply to individuals. Try here http://www.riflesa.asn.au/price_lists/powder.htm
That's interesting, they told me there was a legal issue and 1kg was the limit.
Perhaps the only legal issue is their ability to store enough to keep everyone with just enough.
Me taking almost one fith of their power on hand probably throws a spanner in the works.
I'm not about to get upset about it but I will quiz them again next visit.
on_one_wheel wrote:sungazer wrote:That is BS you LGS will have a 20-30kg limit due to worksafe so they dont like to keep a big qty that may not sell quickly in stock as it limits there other stock. The same restrictions don't apply to individuals. Try here http://www.riflesa.asn.au/price_lists/powder.htm
That's interesting, they told me there was a legal issue and 1kg was the limit.
Perhaps the only legal issue is their ability to store enough to keep everyone with just enough.
Me taking almost one fith of their power on hand probably throws a spanner in the works.
I'm not about to get upset about it but I will quiz them again next visit.
bigfellascott wrote:How the hell can ADI sell 4kg bottles of the stuff then?
on_one_wheel wrote:They won't sell me a 4kg in SA ... apparently it's beyond the limit that they are allowed to sell here.
sungazer wrote:That is BS you LGS will have a 20-30kg limit due to worksafe so they dont like to keep a big qty that may not sell quickly in stock as it limits there other stock. The same restrictions don't apply to individuals. Try here http://www.riflesa.asn.au/price_lists/powder.htm