223 Loads

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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Oldbloke » 05 Dec 2017, 8:04 pm

Marlin XS7 1 in 9 twist. 23.5gr Ar2208
S&B case & primer. 55gr SP Hornady. .8 moa
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Apollo » 05 Dec 2017, 8:58 pm

CZ 527 Varmint Laminate 1:9 twist. 24.8gr ADI BM-2 CCI 400 SR Primer.
Lapua Match cases. Berger 55gr FB Varmint. Bullet seated to fit Magazine.
Accuracy = 0.325 MOA.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Cooper » 06 Dec 2017, 1:37 pm

My cheap 223 hunting load is a 55gr Sierra super Roo with 25.5gr AR2206H.
Fired out of Howa Mini action 20 inch barrel 1-9 twist @3100fps. ADI brass and Sellior and Bellot small rifle primer.

I have two 223s but still working on a load for my Weathery Vanguard 24 inch barrel 1-12 twist. I have been trying BM2 and 40gr Zmax. Will post up when I find a load I'm happy with.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by on_one_wheel » 06 Dec 2017, 4:21 pm

Keeping in mind that using someone else's load recipe cam be a recipe for disaster.

Always work your own loads up.

Remington 700,
24"barrel
1 in 12" twist
25.5 grains of Adi 2208
Winchester small rifle primers
OSA brass
55 grain hornady v-max
= 3150 fps


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Re: 223 Loads

Post by sungazer » 18 Jan 2018, 4:02 pm

It was a nice still night last night at dusk so I did a little testing with the 223 using Berger 70 g VLD at 60 thou off the lands and CCI BR samll rifle primers in lapua brass (although I noticed that the hole is not the small hole normally associated with the small rifle primers and from testing in my 308 when the primer hole is increased from the 1.5 mm to 1.59 (drilled out to uniform them after some wear) they do have a greater MV).
Anyway the rifle is a Howa 1500 Varmint barrel 24 inch 1:9 twist
23.6 gr AR2206H 2801 fps SD 5
24.0 gr AR2206H 2917 fps SD 13
24.6 gr AR2206H 2980 fps SD 10 Best group
25.0 gr AR2206H 3010 fps SD 15
25.6 gr AR2206H 55gr Sierra Super Roos 3183 fps SD 15 not great grouping
This rifle is still in what I would call the run in phase after the breaking the barrel in phase so just finding out how it shoots compared to published data.
While every rifle is slightly different there are also a lot of similarities hence some factory ammo seems to shoot well in many rifles.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by fxol » 18 Jan 2018, 9:28 pm

Steyr Pro Varmint 1:9 twist
Hornady Z Max 50 grs
AR2206H 26 grains
Sub moa at 200.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by BRNO_Bigot » 21 Jan 2018, 6:05 pm

CZ 527 Fullstock
Remington 55gr SP projies
Remington cases
CCI SR primers
24gr BM2 - 1.25MOA - which is fine for my very lightweight full stock rifle - it was also the first load I tried.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by steverfs » 27 Jan 2018, 6:56 pm

Tikka T3
20"
1:12
AR2208 25.0 gr
Rem Small Rifle Primers
Nosler 55 grain Ballistic Tip Boat Tails (No load data available)
Norma new brass

Not at all happy with today's effort on the range - starting working up loads from 25.0 then ran up to 26.5
The lower charges by far the most consistent shooting a reasonably tight group at 600 m - anything higher than 26, turned into a few flyers.

So for this week, I'm dropping a few more loads down starting at 23.0 and working up in 0.5 increments to 25.

Love working up loads !! But 55 gr factory still shoots a clover leaf at 300 m --- which is still a fox's head. If I miss, it's me, not the rifle or the load....
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Stix » 28 Jan 2018, 11:08 am

steverfs wrote:... ... 55 gr factory still shoots a clover leaf at 300 m --- which is still a fox's head. If I miss, it's me, not the rifle or the load....


Wow...infact thats a foxes eye @ 300m.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Rikta » 29 Jan 2018, 11:46 pm

Howa 1500 Varmint barrel 24 inch 1:9 twist
25gr ADI 2206H
PPU Brass
CCI primers
Nosler Varmageddon 55gn ballistic tip
Chrono'd at 3050fps
Sub MOA @200m

Nosler Varmaggedon hollow points 55gr
same speed,
1 MOA @200m
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Flyer » 01 Feb 2018, 4:47 pm

Been testing 53gr Hornady V-maxes and 53gr Nosler Varmageddons in a Tikka T3 1:8 and a Sako Varmint 1:8 and they both like the same loads. Also, both projectiles shoot the same at 100m.

25.1gr BM2 = 3150fps and 0.375" 4 shots @ 100m
25.3gr BM2 = 3200fps and 0.389" 4 shots @ 100m

Chrono was for the T3 with a 22.5" barrel. Sako has a 24" barrel, so probably 25-50fps faster. Both barrels have the same COAL.

ADI/OSA cases, BR4 and Winchester small primers (both work) and loaded mag length (around 2.280").


Does anyone have a good load for 2206H using 53gr V-maxes in a 1:8 twist? I haven't had much luck with it.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by justgav » 01 Feb 2018, 5:00 pm

Flyer,

Closest I have for you is 25.5gr for 2206h using 55gr v-max. Using Tikka T3 lite in 1:8 twist
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Flyer » 01 Feb 2018, 5:11 pm

Cheers mate. I tried 26.0gr with the 53gr V-maxes and it was OK, but not as good as my BM2 load. Maybe somewhere between 25.5 and 26.0 will do it for the lighter (53gr vs 55gr) projectile.

For the record, we did chrono the 2206H loads and came up with 26.0gr @ 3280fps and 26.5gr @ 3330fps. This was in the Tikka with the shorter (sporter) barrel.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Flyer » 01 Feb 2018, 5:13 pm

What we have found is that the ADI load data is pretty spot-on when it comes to listed velocities. At least in the T3 1:8.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by sungazer » 01 Feb 2018, 7:53 pm

They are pretty hot loads. I haven't tested up that far yet. I will proceed cautiously and see where it take me.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Flyer » 02 Feb 2018, 4:56 pm

We didn't start to notice pressure signs until 25.7gr of BM2 with the 53 grainers, but obviously every rifle is different and we were loading a little longer than SAAMI spec, which reduces pressure a little bit. ADI lists 26.0 as max for 53gr, so we're in the same ballpark.

It also proved the Sako and Tikka barrels are very similar, if not the same (as you'd expect out of the same factory).

FYI, I also tested the 70gr Nosler RDFs and couldn't get them to shoot. 24.9gr of 2206H was starting to get hot, but had my best results with 22.8gr of BM2. Reloader 15 was OK, too, at around 24.8gr.

I have some 69gr Sierra Tipped Matchkings to try next - anyone got a good load for either the TMK or normal BTHP 69gr Matchkings?
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by SCJ429 » 03 Feb 2018, 6:05 pm

Unmodified Tikka T3 1:8, Berger 80 grain target in Lapua brass CCI BR4 ADI 2208, 24.1 grains. Shot .254@ 100, .950 @ 300 and 2.700 @ 500. Got to love Sako/ Tikka barrels.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by duncan61 » 09 Feb 2018, 12:00 am

Its .222 and I load 22.2gn 2208 for about 2700fps Remington SPS 50gn.Its my first centrefire Ruger with a 22 inch Stainless Steel barrel and it is very accurate.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Cooper » 12 Feb 2018, 8:23 am

BM2 seems to be one of preferred powders in the 223. Ended settling on 25gr BM2 and 50gr Z-max in the Weatherby. It’s not super fast. But it is just a hunting load. Does what I need it to do.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by sungazer » 12 Feb 2018, 8:28 am

The ADI manual is a bit all over the place with loads for a 55 gr pill. Some of the max load for one bullet are min loads for another. I pulled a buffalo River ADI/OSA round one of the GameKings I have the BlitzKings as well and the gave the same reading over the Chrono anyway the powder I would bet my left nut on was 8208 and it was about 23.6 grns The reasons for thinking it was the 8208 apart from looking the same was that the amount also nearly was what I would expect for the speed. I should recreate the load with my powder and see if it perform the same to verify. I don't know why they don't just put it on the box like Hornady.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by JimTom » 12 Feb 2018, 7:15 pm

I have a bit of Benchmark 1 to use up and have found a load for a 55gn projectile from a previous ADI edition. New edition stops using BM 1 at 53gn projectiles and switches to BM 2. Anyone loadIng BM1 and 55gn projectiles in their .223?
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by JimTom » 19 Feb 2018, 1:00 pm

Tikka T3x Lite 1:12 twist
8 shot sub MOA group
55gn SP
AR2208
Win Brass
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Mitch@Ripley » 22 Feb 2018, 9:59 am

Getting really bloody awesome results with Hornady 60gr SP projies and 8208 powder. under 1/3 inch with a 65c load, good enough for me...not. But it is my favourite cheaper load so far.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by JimTom » 22 Feb 2018, 2:01 pm

I think I am going to try some BM8208 soon. Most seem to be getting great results with it.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Mitch@Ripley » 23 Feb 2018, 11:08 am

8208 for the win with .223, everything from 60 to 73gr'ers like it in my rifle, 55gr is a bit iffy but haven't done much development
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Flyer » 13 Mar 2018, 1:18 pm

sungazer wrote:The ADI manual is a bit all over the place with loads for a 55 gr pill. Some of the max load for one bullet are min loads for another. I pulled a buffalo River ADI/OSA round one of the GameKings I have the BlitzKings as well and the gave the same reading over the Chrono anyway the powder I would bet my left nut on was 8208 and it was about 23.6 grns The reasons for thinking it was the 8208 apart from looking the same was that the amount also nearly was what I would expect for the speed. I should recreate the load with my powder and see if it perform the same to verify. I don't know why they don't just put it on the box like Hornady.

One of the guys at my former club did the same, then contacted ADI and confirmed it was 8208.

The 55gr loads in ADI's data are obviously dependent on load and projectile length. The lower powder loads are for the NTX (copper) projectiles that are longer than their lead equivalents but loaded to the same length, which = reduced chamber volume and higher pressures for the same load.

The 55gr SPR SP (Speer Soft Point) data is a good place to start, as the Speer and Sierra SPs are almost identical. The 55gr Barnes Triple Shock is over .150" longer, hence the reduced charge: http://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics ... gths.shtml
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by sungazer » 13 Mar 2018, 1:27 pm

it makes sense them using the 8208 as it measures volumetrically much better than other powders so they will get a much more consistent factory load.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by Flyer » 13 Mar 2018, 1:34 pm

ADI also claims it's one of the more consistent batch powders, so that also makes sense for a factory load.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by PM3010 » 17 Jun 2019, 7:57 pm

I'm in the process of load development. I have a weatherby vanguard series 2 and new to centrefire shooting.
It is very interesting reading others experiences. It's encouraging to aim (No punn intended) for best sub MOA I can get.
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Re: 223 Loads

Post by flutch » 17 Jun 2019, 8:10 pm

Howa 1500 Varmint 1:9 26"
PPU and Hornady brass
CCI Magnum small rifle primers
25gn ADI 2206H fart dust
55gn Nosler Varmaggeddon Projies

Crono'd at 3280fps
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