sungazer wrote:I recently bought a micrometer seating die. It turned out that even using Hybrid bullets the seating stem was touching the end of the projectile. Making it the same as a dead length seating die such as the lee at $30. This results in seating length errors as the projectiles are all over the place in length at the pointy end. So I had to take the die apart and grind the seating stem to the same profile as the projectile and then polish it to mirror finish so it wouldn't grab and pull the projectile out a little as the press is released. so even spending $2$$ the die still needed work.
Cooper wrote:I have the Forster Micro seater for 6.5 Creedmoor and have just order one from BRT for my 223. Because I liked my Creedmoor one so much. At around $145 I think there are pretty good value. I mainly have Lee dies and few RCBS dies. I found the Lee seater die wasn't working great with the ELD and VLD projectiles. The Lee die was marking the projectile near the tip. With the Forster Micro seater you can easily dial in a new seating depth. I am going to be trying a few different projectiles in the 223 and I reckon just being able to see when the seating die set will be very handy. I'm a fan!
Stix wrote:Im a hunter & along with that also punch paper...
All my die sets are standard Redding 3 die sets...
Wanting a better/more precise method of seating a variety of bullets...
sungazer wrote:I set up my dies as per the instructions and luckily at first I didnt have a problem although it may have been netter if I had it at first. Anyway I now have two 308 both chambered by the same smith using the same reamer. One a Remington 700 the other a Barnard. For some reason I decided to do a full length resize after about 5 neck sizing's. Well after that my Barnard started to have lots of misfires. I eventually built a comparitor so I could see how much difference was between a fired case and a full length resized one from the base of the case (bolt face) to the datum line (or a point close to it depending on your manufacturing tolerances) I found that there was at least 7 thou difference in the ones that failed to fir in the Barnard.
I ran these through the Remington 700 which hits a lot harder and 18 out of 20 went off two still failed to fire. I then emptied these cases put a new primer in and reloaded them, however this time with the projectile 10 thou jammed into the lands to stop the case moving forward. both fired and the cases are now the same as all the fired ones.
Now I hope I can use these cases just neck sized and seat the projectiles to any depth I want and achieve reliable ignition.
1) having a device to measure where you are at is great you are able to quantify things
2) Again having a micrometer die is great so you can quantify things. But you must take it apart learn how it works while apart put your intended projectiles in to the seater and test for fit make sure it will contact squarely at the point that is specified for that projectile.
Its all a good learning process
In the end they all basically work the same way just some better than others.
sungazer wrote:Not so Lucky I used 123 rounds in the weekend prior to score 60 scoring shots and 10 sighters. That is I had 59 shots hat failed to go off in competition. It certainly helped my follow through and flinch. I noticed the last few days when practicing on some gongs I could see the bullet strike before i heard the plink
Stix wrote:sungazer wrote:I recently bought a micrometer seating die. It turned out that even using Hybrid bullets the seating stem was touching the end of the projectile. Making it the same as a dead length seating die such as the lee at $30. This results in seating length errors as the projectiles are all over the place in length at the pointy end. So I had to take the die apart and grind the seating stem to the same profile as the projectile and then polish it to mirror finish so it wouldn't grab and pull the projectile out a little as the press is released. so even spending $2$$ the die still needed work.
That sounds like a hoot...!
Something i wont have time for...ah well...i just ordered them...
I already have that trouble with some standard proj's in my 7-08...
Fun times ahead...
Ill ask a fitter i know if he can do it for me.
Thanks for that sungazer.