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looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Don10 » 24 Dec 2013, 6:57 pm

Well as the topic says... anyone have any load data using ADI powders? I have been searching but can only find other powders that are unobtainable.

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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Chronos » 24 Dec 2013, 7:32 pm

great cartridge, one reason you may be having trouble is because the data you are finding online is from the states and the names may be different.

stick to ADI 2208, (Varget in the US load data) it's a great powder and is available at lower cost per grain in the 4kg bottles


http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloade ... alents.asp

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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Hatter » 24 Dec 2013, 7:38 pm

If you've got load data for other powders, ADI publish which powders you can substitute with theirs.

http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloade ... alents.asp

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If you've got load data for any of those powders, the chart will show you the equivalent ADI powder.
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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Don10 » 24 Dec 2013, 9:01 pm

OK that's a great start to know it is acceptable to use the conversion chart supplied by ADI. I note it says there is a 5% tolerance so that should be fine maybe I will factor in a safety range slightly lower than the maximums when using this.

Thanks heaps that gives me the confidence to go the next step.

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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Monty » 26 Dec 2013, 8:51 pm

Don10 wrote:OK that's a great start to know it is acceptable to use the conversion chart supplied by ADI. I note it says there is a 5% tolerance so that should be fine maybe I will factor in a safety range slightly lower than the maximums when using this.


If you're concerned, just stick half a grain below max and that should still give you a decent range of charges to test loads with.
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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Hatter » 26 Dec 2013, 8:52 pm

No worries, mate.

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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by 6mmdasher » 05 Jan 2014, 6:05 pm

HI mate try AR 2209 with the 140 grainers start at 39gr and then work up at .5 gr steps. The 6.5 br is in no comparable with 6.5 x 47. The br case is way shorter.
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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Don10 » 12 Jan 2014, 9:29 am

Thanks all I will do a ladder test with 2209 and post results on this site.

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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Gregg » 13 Jan 2014, 8:23 am

Please do mate.

6.5x47L is on the cards for a new target rifle for me soon ;)

Eager to see your results.
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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Igoe » 14 Jan 2014, 10:25 pm

You can always email ADI. They may be able to provide you with some suggested loads using their powders.

They did that for me when I wanted to try a bullet weight they didn't list in 30-06. Took them several days to respond, but gave me something I felt safe using.

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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Blackened » 16 Jan 2014, 9:22 am

Igoe wrote:They did that for me when I wanted to try a bullet weight they didn't list in 30-06. Took them several days to respond, but gave me something I felt safe using.


And they provided non-published data for you?

Interesting... I know of a few people emailing them in the past but all they ever got back was "official" published data. No was on interested in offering anything outside of the official ADI line.
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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Apollo » 16 Jan 2014, 10:15 am

Don10 wrote:Well as the topic says... anyone have any load data using ADI powders? I have been searching but can only find other powders that are unobtainable.

Cheers


Which Bullet and Weight are you contemplating using....????

There isn't a great deal of load data available other than in the USA and they tend to favour rather hot loads so beware when looking at information say on the Accurate Shooter Web Site. Also quite a bit on their associated Forum and again beware of the Yanks liking for hot loads.

Just in case those reading don't know. Thales Australia (ADI) manufacture powder and ship it to Hodgdon who then relabel it under their own designated brand and types. The following link shows a list of the exact Hodgdon equivalents, not 5% but exact as the ADI powder is not touched just renamed. One on the list is not up to date and that is IMR 8208BR which is the ADI Bench Mark 8208.

http://www.hodgdon.com/msds.html

Also all of the Load Data listed by ADI is actually provided by Hodgdon USA. ADI do not do any load testing at all.

I have three rifles chambered in 6.5x47 Lapua and the best is quite capable of shooting sub 1/8th MOA with the bullet and load I use which is 130gr Berger VLD, 37.4gr ADI AR2208. The accuracy of this setup has also been tested by another Forum Member here. Always start powder loads low and work up as I have seen some rifles that tend to go over pressure at less than my loads. Please be also aware that the 6.5x47 Lapua is a high pressure cartridge and requires a hard primer or you will very easily flatten &/or pierce primers. Typically the most popular primer is the CCI BR4 but there are a couple of others that are also suitable like the Remington 7 1/2.

My load data and testing was initially done with the help and advice from one of Australia top Benchrest Shooters. Every case fired was inspected and measured before proceeding to the next load under test. All bullets were seated 0.002" off the lands and are still loaded to the same dimension. Load testing started at 36gr then 36.4gr up to 38.0gr in 0.2gr increments. Testing stopped at 37.8gr as the groups started to open out. At 37.4gr the group shot at 200 yards by my friend measured 0.086" showing what experience is all about. My best 200 yard group has only been 0.200" so I need a lot more practise. The measured velocities of my loads is around 2,860fps with an ES of 8 and SD of 2.46.

Some people have tried 140gr or there abouts weight bullets and the expert advice I have been given is that this bullet weight is too heavy for the small 6.5x47 Lapua case and accuracy will suffer. Bullets of the 140gr weight or heavier are suited more for calibres that have a much bigger case length like the 260R to 6.5x284.

Hope this helps a little bit. There is a lot more involved in getting the best accuracy out of this calibre.
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Re: looking for ADI load data for 6.5 x 47L

Post by Don10 » 22 Jan 2014, 5:04 pm

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Thanks for that great info there. I am progressing slowly and will be using 130 gr Berger VLDs (when they arrive) I did have some 140gr Hornady Match but will leave them for the 6.5 x .284. I am impressed by the cartridge I have only recently got the conversion kit for my DTA SRS and have been firing factory rounds to fire in the barrell and get an understanding of the round. Shooting at 100m is a waste so I am waiting to go to the big smoke and try a better distance.

I managed to make my own cartridge case for the Hornady OAL gauge. I was going to send off a few fired cart cases so the blank cartridge could be tooled but in the end I ordered the tap online for I think $11 delivered and drilled and tapped them in the vise. Works well .

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