Strikey wrote:[
I was talking headshots but if you insist a chest shot on a rabbit at that distance with a 22 and they don't go far, if you are such an experienced silhouette shooter you will know that your rifle needs to shoot MOA or less at that distance and a rabbits head is a big target compared to Rams when shooting offhand
Completely and utterly incorrect. The RMS targets are one-fifth the size of the Centrefire; the 100m RAM is approximately 6" wide by 5" tall. That's about the size of a school calculator. Now I don't know what bunnies you're shooting, but the ones I'm shooting have heads a lot smaller than a calculator. And that's exactly my point - even a mechanically moa 22lr will struggle to consistently hold a 1" group at 100m (under varying, real-world hunting conditions), which means it's a lucky-dip attempting headshot at such a distance. With 100% accuracy you'd probably miss 50% of your shots. So you go for body shots right? Ok sure you can hit em at that distance, but half the time they do a backflip and run away. I've learnt the hard way not to even attempt such long shots with the 22lr because it's outright cruel. This is where calibres like the 17hmr (or the 223 getting back to OP) really shine. And no, you don't need to offhand 1moa to hit the silhouettes; more like 4-5moa buddy. A 2moa rifle is plenty good enough to compete in a comp.
And since you brought my silhouette shooting experience into question mate (dunno where that came from BTW, I never claimed to be "mr experienced", I was merely referring to it as an example of how the 22lr dies in the arse past 60m); here's the facts - I'm a AA graded RMS shooter who competes in at least one RMS comp the last Sunday of every month. I have not missed a single session in the last 2 years. I practice silhouette as much as possible in addition to that. I'm not the best competitor, but I'm also definitely not the worst.
They're the facts mate - so don't go slinging unsubstantiated BS without expecting a harsh response. Sorry.