Sabot rounds any point?

[andym79]

Hi guys, I was looking at these http://www.eabco.com/remington-accelerator-sabots.html

At this point I am not really that serious, just curious and wanted to get opinion of these, are they really highly accurate? Is the plastic fine for the barrel? Are they even legal here? Is there really any point if you have a 223?

Thanks

[Chronos]

I've never used them but I've never heard good things about their accuracy.

Might be fun to play with but i know id end up shooting my .204 as a fast flat varmint round and shoot 150's out of my .30cal.

Chronos

[andym79]

True, I would just reach for my 223, I guess it was designed for guys who only had a 30 cal.

[Davies]

I can't see why you would possibly ever use one of these if you had a .223

Talk about over complicating things...

[Vati]

I can't imagine what possessed them to do this for modern 30 cals and .223 pils.

A sabot is for launching a projectile which can't be fired like a traditional bullet which has a base and matching diametre of the barrel.

e.g. shotgun pellets, an arrow style projectile like some anti armour rounds, some muzzles loaders etc.

IMO this 30 cal/223 thing is a solution to a problem which doesn't exist.

[yoshie]

I bought half a bag of 30 cal to 224 cal sabots off a guy on the other shooting forum and also a seating die to play around with. Theoretically you can get around 5000f/s out of a 3006 pushing 55 grain bullets. Accuracy was pretty bad like 6 inch groups at 100m and there was heaps of nylon fouling in the barrel. I sold the seating die off a while back. My advise, don't bother, waist of time and gun powder.

[maxi]

Sounds like they're just for people who are obsessed with speed... Not function.

[nords]

A sabot is for launching a projectile which can't be fired like a traditional bullet which has a base and matching diametre of the barrel.

e.g. shotgun pellets, an arrow style projectile like some anti armour rounds, some muzzles loaders etc.

Arrow bullets?

More info please

[VICHunter]

Theoretically you can get around 5000f/s out of a 3006 pushing 55 grain bullets. Accuracy was pretty bad like 6 inch groups at 100m and there was heaps of nylon fouling in the barrel.

Thin jacketed or hollow point bullets would probably be coming apart in the air at those velocities.

No wonder accuracy was terrible.

[Lyam]

A sabot is for launching a projectile which can't be fired like a traditional bullet which has a base and matching diametre of the barrel.

Exactly. They're used to create a seal around a projectile like a flechette so it can be fire down a regular barrel,

There is no trouble firing a .223 round last time I checked.

[Lyam]

Arrow bullets?

More info please

Not exactly a bullet, no



The bit that looks like an uneven dumbbell in the middle is the sabot. It clamps the projectile so the "arrow" can be launched and as soon as the combined projectile leave the barrel the sabot peels away and the "arrow" continues onto the target.

This is tank buster stuff though, not everyday firearms.

[Lyam]

Found an better picture here with one seated in a case. The two shells on the right...



High res version here (not mobile friendly).

[paps]

Forgive the newbie question.

As interesting as the sabot things look, what's the point? What was wrong with a regular cannon shell?

[yoshie]

Theoretically you can get around 5000f/s out of a 3006 pushing 55 grain bullets. Accuracy was pretty bad like 6 inch groups at 100m and there was heaps of nylon fouling in the barrel.

Thin jacketed or hollow point bullets would probably be coming apart in the air at those velocities.

No wonder accuracy was terrible.

I don't think they were spinning very fast due to either the rifling not right or the nylon not engaging the rifling and the velocity would have been nowhere near 5000 more like mid 4500s. I had visions of roo heads exploding in pink mist, but it wasn't to be.

Interesting to play with but not very useful

[sarki]

Interesting to play with but not very useful

That's the best kind of stuff to play with