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Re: Need muzzle loader help

Post by Oldbloke » 14 May 2018, 7:35 pm

I picked up 1kg of wano fff and a ball starter today. :thumbsup:
I was going to make one but he knocked $5 off. Also picked up a bronze brush, and have about 90 balls. Sooo, just need a jag now.

Then it's "thunder birds r go"

Put in an order for a Lee .490 ball mould today.
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Post by sungazer » 15 May 2018, 9:53 am

Where in Seymour is it Noisy I might come for a looksee?
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Post by bigpete » 15 May 2018, 11:13 am

Bentaz,you were saying you were setting up a smoothbore 50 ? Have a look into cheewed balls for it
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Post by Oldbloke » 15 May 2018, 1:17 pm

bentaz wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Here it is.

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Did the old bastard cry when he had to hand it over?


TBO, I think he was a bit sad.
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Post by bigpete » 15 May 2018, 4:02 pm

It also helps provide a better fit without excess friction bentaz. I've made a couple but as yet haven't tried them
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Post by Oldbloke » 16 May 2018, 7:34 pm

As I know SFA about these I need to ask.
What is this for? :lol:

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Post by bigpete » 16 May 2018, 7:49 pm

Holds the barrel in. If you cock the hammer,pull that out,pull the ramrod out,you should be able to lift the barrel from the muzzle end and it hooks at the other end into the stock
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Post by Oldbloke » 16 May 2018, 7:57 pm

Well, I'll be. Don't want to lose that.

Bigpete is it normal for the ram rod to only be held in by friction? I expected a clip, latch or similar. Seems to just pull out.
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Post by bigpete » 16 May 2018, 8:05 pm

Yes that's normal
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Post by Oldbloke » 16 May 2018, 8:13 pm

Thanks
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Post by Noisydad » 16 May 2018, 9:36 pm

It’s very common for ramrods to sneak forwards a little with recoil. It’s no biggy just shove it back in.
There's still a few of Wile. E Coyote's ideas that I haven't tried yet.
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Post by sungazer » 16 May 2018, 10:13 pm

Hey OB are you going out to Seymore on Sunday to tey it out and get all the tips from the experts. I know one of the guys other than Noisy and he will tell you history you never knew and never wanted to know. Sorry I tune out short attention span. :D :drinks:
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Post by Oldbloke » 17 May 2018, 5:46 am

sungazer wrote:Hey OB are you going out to Seymore on Sunday to tey it out and get all the tips from the experts. I know one of the guys other than Noisy and he will tell you history you never knew and never wanted to know. Sorry I tune out short attention span. :D :drinks:


Would like to, tempting. . Unfortunately I'm flat out at work and issues with elderly parents. Looks like being a while before I get out. I haven't even had a chance to clean/oil the rifle yet. Just dumped it in the safe.

The blokes here have been great helping me out.
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Re: Need muzzle loader help

Post by sungazer » 17 May 2018, 9:28 am

Mate you have to put 5 mins aside for yourself to get an oily rag and caress that gun just a little. It might Rust :lol: :allegedly:
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Post by Oldbloke » 17 May 2018, 9:02 pm

sungazer wrote:Mate you have to put 5 mins aside for yourself to get an oily rag and caress that gun just a little. It might Rust :lol: :allegedly:


Yeah, will try for it Sunday. But that's in doubt.
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 May 2018, 10:59 am

Sooo, I've finally got some time today to check out my CVA Blaser. I plan see how it comes apart & give it a good clean and oil.
Just 3 questions if you don't mind.

When cleaning at the end of a days shooting should I pull out the breach plug? (I assume the CVA has one?)
And I assume its just hot soapy water then oil the barrel?
And similar treatment to the nipple using a pipe cleaner?

Thanks Bigpete & Noisy. (hope it goes well today in Seymor)
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 May 2018, 2:07 pm

I gave the bore a clean todayjust using about 10 patches with eds red. It has a loose spot 5 inches from the plug. I'm not sure if that will make a huge difference to accuracy or not. Anyway going to let it soak for a week or so then give it another few patches.

Here is the the result.

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Post by bigpete » 20 May 2018, 2:25 pm

I just use hot water,no soap. No you don't take the breech plug out ( you would struggle to anyway if its like mine ). Once your drying patch is coming out clean,oil the barrel. I use something I got from green rivers when.they were still operating that looks like a water based machinists oil. I've also use rp7 when I'm lazy lol. But any sort of natural oil or grease is ok.
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 May 2018, 5:09 pm

OK, that's what I thought. You have been great pigbete. :thumbsup: I owe you some KFC. Beats crow mate. :allegedly:

All set up now I think, just gotta get out and have a shot. I feel a bit like a kid, can't wait to try out the new toy. 8-)

I blame bentaz, bad influence that boy. :allegedly:
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Re: Need muzzle loader help

Post by bigpete » 20 May 2018, 6:19 pm

It'll be fun.
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Post by sungazer » 20 May 2018, 6:55 pm

Bloody cold out Seymour way today. All the guys were having a good time and I think I may have been told a few tall tales by some of the old fanatics. Good to meet up with Noisydad he had a fair few toys not the loudest I heard in the morning. :) . There was certainly a big range in dB from some that were not more that a 22 to quite a bang. You should have a lot of fun with it OB but dont bank on it for the invasion of the zombies. I think even at zombie pace you would be overrun between loadings :lol:
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 May 2018, 7:18 pm

sungazer wrote:Bloody cold out Seymour way today. You should have a lot of fun with it OB but dont bank on it for the invasion of the zombies. I think even at zombie pace you would be overrun between loadings :lol:


Yeah, cold at home today too.

Would have liked to go but lots of family related issues at the moment. Perhaps the next one.

Anyway I cleaned the rifle and I think I'm now ready to go.

PS. The zombies are safe.
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Post by bigpete » 20 May 2018, 7:57 pm

That's why they carried a pistol, a tomahawk,and a long knife ;)
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 May 2018, 8:01 pm

bigpete wrote:That's why they carried a pistol, a tomahawk,and a long knife ;)


Sounds like I need a pistol!
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Post by sungazer » 20 May 2018, 8:05 pm

I cant imagine the effectiveness of a BP pistol other than at 10 paces at most with shot:) or did they use it as a club :lol: Only joking and only have todays guns to compare them to. I mean even warfare of the old English style on line up two deep and maybe only a 100 m long just seems so ridiculous when you think about wanting to rip the enemy's guts out at any cost.
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Post by Oldbloke » 11 Jun 2018, 7:46 pm

Noisydad wrote:Wet lube brew: 1 1/2 cups water, 60ml cutting oil, 30 ml dish washing liquid. Soak the patches, squeeze them out a little and use quite damp or almost wet. Every shot wipes out the barrel and the 60th shot is as easy to load as the first.


Sooo, is that the water solible lathe cutting oil? And is that concentrated or mixed?

Finally got out today. Using straight olive oil after about 5 shots it was very hard to push the ball down. So poured hot water with a dash of soap down the barrel, gave it a few pumps with a brush and was better after that. Is that normal?
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Re: Need muzzle loader help

Post by bigpete » 11 Jun 2018, 7:51 pm

It can be.
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Post by Noisydad » 11 Jun 2018, 10:16 pm

That lube brew uses the oil (yes soluble oil as used on machine tools) and dish liquid or liquid soap as supplied. With every grease type lube I’ve used on patches the most shots I’ve got before loading got hard was about 5. Wet lubes make PRB muzzle loading so much easier- they let you concentrate on the shot and not have to worry wether you’re gunna get the ball all the way down.
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Post by Oldbloke » 11 Jun 2018, 10:27 pm

Noisydad wrote:That lube brew uses the oil (yes soluble oil as used on machine tools) and dish liquid or liquid soap as supplied. With every grease type lube I’ve used on patches the most shots I’ve got before loading got hard was about 5. Wet lubes make PRB muzzle loading so much easier- they let you concentrate on the shot and not have to worry wether you’re gunna get the ball all the way down.


Thanks noisy. You’re grouse.
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My daughter Kerri having a blast earlier today.
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