Fixed power for 222?

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Fixed power for 222?

Post by Rathie » 16 May 2018, 12:30 am

G’day everyone,

My first post as a new member.

A quick hello and a brief history is in order I guess?

I’m an old (ish) bloke at 54. Born and bred on a wheat and cattle property in western nsw but have lived in Brisbane since the mid 80’s.

Dad had a passion for shooting and flying (sometimes both together!) which I shared from an early age. Try to get away to the bush with rifle and bow 4 or 5 times a year and love to put a bunny in the pot of fill the freezer with some nice young goat.

Am just building up the arsenal again after a brief hiatus and have just taken possession of a near mint condition Tikka m55 in 222.

Have wacked a surplus Bushnell 3x9x40 on it (which will go onto a 257/270 at some time when I actually purchase one) and am in the market for a fixed 7 or 8 power scope (told you I was old) I just like the simplicity and no fuss of a fixed power and do not find it much of a hindrance.

The rifle will see general purpose work as a walk about rifle for rabbit/Fox/goat etc.

Really do not want to spend more than 4-500 on the scope and apart from Lynx 8x56 and Yukon 7x50 or 8x46 there does not appear to be much around in that price range.

I’m perfectly happy to put a second hand 8x40 Tasco World Class or similar on her - rare as hens teeth!

Does anyone have other brand suggestions or ideas on where I can pick a god second hand scope up?

Sorry for the rambling of an old bloke - thought I’d give a bit of history with my g’day.

Cheers, Rathie
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Re: Fixed power for 222?

Post by Daddybang » 16 May 2018, 3:16 pm

Gday rathie :welcome: :drinks:
Mate I've got a 6× mountmaster (about ten or eleven years old) that ive put on a cz527 in .222 for the missus (not bein a smartarse I love the rifle and cal too!!!!! :lol: ) and for daytime use at reasonable distance cant really fault it so maybe check nikko sterling out . :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Post by bentaz » 16 May 2018, 5:47 pm

Same as above.
Firstly welcome, secondly I also have an old Nikko fixed 8x on my old savage 340 .222 which I use for foxes, rabbits, goats etc.
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Post by Mitch » 16 May 2018, 8:12 pm

Weaver do some cheaper fixed powers. I had a 6x on a 223
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Post by bigfellascott » 16 May 2018, 8:14 pm

You should be able to find a use Leupold M8 in that price range and magnification, have a look on Used Guns. They have a lifetime warranty.
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Post by duncan61 » 16 May 2018, 9:03 pm

I purchased a brand new .222 ruger amd it came with a fixed 6x something which went out fairly soon.I replaced it with a fixed 6x $96 nikko stirling nighteater and pro roo shot for 10 years.I was given a bushnell recently which is the only reason I changed again.At 57 I need a bit more than 6x and the reticle lights up red or green on the bushnell
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Post by straightshooter » 17 May 2018, 7:55 am

Rathie
It's good to see that you have a rational approach to scopes.
I would suggest that an 8x56 may be a little too bulky for a 'walk about hunting rifle' and more suitable for a sit and wait rifle.
A 6x40 would probably be a much better compromise and if you are up to it you can get a second hand S&B, Kahles or Zeiss and stay within your budget. There are a couple of sellers out of Germany visible on ebay if you tick the worldwide box, who regularly have them on offer.
Now to put things in perspective, I have a Japanese Weaver 6x40 (which were considered superior to US made Weavers) to compare with an older Zeiss 6x40 from the 60's. The Zeiss has it all over the Weaver.
The real point of all this is to pay regard to optical resolution and not necessarily magnification.
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Re: Fixed power for 222?

Post by Gwion » 17 May 2018, 8:13 am

Sounds like a good idea. If you can find a scope with good clarity, i reckon 6x40 would be heaps of optics for a 222 or 223 and a walk about, no fuss set up. I'd only pick the 6x for a slighly better field of view for closer shots and faster target aquisition.
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Post by bigfellascott » 17 May 2018, 6:13 pm

Gwion wrote:Sounds like a good idea. If you can find a scope with good clarity, i reckon 6x40 would be heaps of optics for a 222 or 223 and a walk about, no fuss set up. I'd only pick the 6x for a slighly better field of view for closer shots and faster target aquisition.


Any idea if the S&B, Zeiss etc have a lifetime transferable warranty? would be worth considering when buying 2nd hand and the other thing is they usually require them to be sent back OS for warranty work if my memory serves me correctly. :thumbsup:
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Post by bigfellascott » 17 May 2018, 6:20 pm

Might be worth considering (not sure on prices but would imagine it would fit into your price range)

https://www.meoptasportsoptics.com/us/p ... -6x42-916/
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Post by bigfellascott » 17 May 2018, 6:38 pm

Plenty of Pecar scopes on page 3 on Abused Guns - https://www.usedguns.com.au/Guns/used_s ... fle_scopes
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Re: Fixed power for 222?

Post by Rathie » 17 May 2018, 11:07 pm

Thanks for the advice!

I’ll ‘fix’ the variable at 6 ( or 7 or 8) and see what I prefer.

In the meantime I’ll scour the used adds until the right one comes along.

She gets her maiden voyage at Belmont this weekend. Miss 17 is turning into a keen shooter and will probably join me and drive the 22 or hornet.

Will burn some factory ammo to build up the brass for reloading. Will post some pics next week ( or it never happened)

Cheers all, Iain
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Post by Tank » 17 May 2018, 11:38 pm

Vote here for a fixy 6x from Leupold.
My 2cents.
Great little scope and would suit the .222 admirably.
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Post by Stix » 17 May 2018, 11:59 pm

Im one of those blind people who has become a fan of variable power.
4-16, if not 4-12/14...just aids in those longer range headshots when you live in denial about going blind. :D
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Post by Rod_outbak » 18 May 2018, 7:51 am

I bought a fixed Weaver K series 6x38 fixed; back in 2013($270). It was going to end up on my Krico .243, but instead did about 12 months on my Tikka T3 7mm-08.

To be honest, I was never overly excited about it as a scope. I wouldnt have minded the relatively low power magnification, if the optics made up for it.
But I dont think they were very good optics, to be honest.
[Shouldnt be really surprised, at $270...]
We used to have a Pecar 6x59 moving reticle scope on my Dads Krico .243; superb optics.
About 10 years back, my brother and I did a bit of horse-trading, and I ended up with the Krico, as it was a bit of a basket-case at the time.
My brother wanted the Pecar back, so I bought the Weaver as a stand-in.
At the time, the Krico was suffering from a barrel near end of life, broken trigger guard (moulded plastic) and a few other crises, and so the poor scope optics didnt really stand out.
But we now have a new stainless barrel fitted, machined alloy trigger guard/mag-well, and all other issues resolved, and the Krico shoots like a freaking laser.
I didnt notice a crappy scope (as much) when the rifle itself couldnt deliver...
If I found a 2nd-hand Pecar of the later image-moving design around that size, I'd consider it.
Eventually, my plan is the Krico will end up with my smaller Nightforce SHV scope(3-10x42), which is currently doing time on the Ruger Precision Rifle. The RPR will likely get the large SHV; currently on the 7mm.
If he ever gets his arse into gear, elder brother is supposed to be taking the 7mm-08 at some stage, but he is taking his own sweet time about it.
He can find his own freaking scope, though the old Pecar wouldnt do a bad job on the 7mm.
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Re: Fixed power for 222?

Post by RoginaJack » 18 May 2018, 8:27 pm

Hi Rathie, welcome to the group.

For a walk about scope I'd suggest having a look at something like a 4-12x variable. The 4x good for sitting and whistling up foxes, 6-8x for spotlighting and 12x spotting holes in targets. Something like a Vortex or Nikko Stirling should go well, both on the rifle and pocket.
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Re: Fixed power for 222?

Post by Gwion » 18 May 2018, 10:00 pm

bigfellascott wrote:
Gwion wrote:Sounds like a good idea. If you can find a scope with good clarity, i reckon 6x40 would be heaps of optics for a 222 or 223 and a walk about, no fuss set up. I'd only pick the 6x for a slighly better field of view for closer shots and faster target aquisition.


Any idea if the S&B, Zeiss etc have a lifetime transferable warranty? would be worth considering when buying 2nd hand and the other thing is they usually require them to be sent back OS for warranty work if my memory serves me correctly. :thumbsup:


No idea, BigFella. Even 2nd hand is out of my budget at the moment but if i could get good clear ootics I'd happily change to fixed powwr for most applications. I find my variables end up set at about 6x most of the time in the field. Occassionally crank it up for longer shots but not often.
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Re: Fixed power for 222?

Post by bigfellascott » 19 May 2018, 4:49 am

Gwion wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:
Gwion wrote:Sounds like a good idea. If you can find a scope with good clarity, i reckon 6x40 would be heaps of optics for a 222 or 223 and a walk about, no fuss set up. I'd only pick the 6x for a slighly better field of view for closer shots and faster target aquisition.


Any idea if the S&B, Zeiss etc have a lifetime transferable warranty? would be worth considering when buying 2nd hand and the other thing is they usually require them to be sent back OS for warranty work if my memory serves me correctly. :thumbsup:


No idea, BigFella. Even 2nd hand is out of my budget at the moment but if i could get good clear ootics I'd happily change to fixed powwr for most applications. I find my variables end up set at about 6x most of the time in the field. Occassionally crank it up for longer shots but not often.


Cheers G, Im similar when it comes to variables, mostly just leave them on 9 and like the idea of not having to stuff around with side focus these days, just rather point and shoot. :drinks:
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