Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by KoalaGrundle » 06 Apr 2019, 7:03 pm

I have a $30 Chinese knock off of a Leupold 3.5-10x40mm mildot on a .22. It'll last as long as it lasts.. and then I'll get a real Leupold!

Also got a $30 Chinese brand 6-24x but it's more like 6-14x

Pays your money you takes your chances, and it's nice to be able to put something functional for cheap on a cheap gun
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by SCJ429 » 06 Apr 2019, 8:03 pm

Modern Chinese scopes are probably better than Japanese scopes from the 80s. I remember some woeful Nikko Stirlings and Tasco from that era.
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by solarpak » 13 Apr 2019, 9:10 pm

Modern scopes have come a long way in the last 20 years.....and warranties are now being offered where the consumer is the biggest winner.
Makes like Leupold, Burris, Steiner, Styrka, and probably more offer a replacement warranty on defects and even accidental damage - thats transferable through the life of the scope.
Glass quality coming out of modern plants in China recently has increased to the point that its very close to quality Japanese glass and Euro glass . Chinese made Scopes such as the Hawke and Styrka makes offer excellent scopes built to high quality control - and even the top tier Hawke and Styrka models are around the $1000 price range.

But undoubtedly where quality glass comes in play is when shooting at very long range and in low light - use a premium make like a high-end Nightforce, Vortex, Bushnell, Zeiss, Swaro, Leica, Meopta etc....in these conditions and you will immediately notice the difference.

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Post by TassieTiger » 14 Apr 2019, 12:37 am

Well - I have one on the way for poos and laughs.
I intend to ensure it is tested to at least what the original you tube guy did and more...oh so much more lol
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Post by JSS » 14 Apr 2019, 7:41 am

TassieTiger wrote:Well - I have one on the way for poos and laughs.
I intend to ensure it is tested to at least what the original you tube guy did and more...oh so much more lol


So you're saying you also have a tractor and some arrows on the way :thumbsup: I'll send you down a couple of sticks of dynamite.....If it's not dynamite proof it's just no good :wtf: :drinks:
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by xDom » 14 Apr 2019, 8:55 am

I remember when I was looking for a spotting scope for the range. I checked out this x 60 $165 model, Celestion, I think?
After that I tried a x 40 Kowa, costing $400.
The difference was remarkable. The cheapie was no where near as clear as the Kowa, which I ended up buying.
I’m guessing it comes down to the quality of the glass.
Wouldn’t scopes be the same?
I’m not suggesting spending $ thousands but I wouldn’t think a sub $50 scope to be much chop?
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Post by TassieTiger » 14 Apr 2019, 9:36 am

JSS wrote:
TassieTiger wrote:Well - I have one on the way for poos and laughs.
I intend to ensure it is tested to at least what the original you tube guy did and more...oh so much more lol


So you're saying you also have a tractor and some arrows on the way :thumbsup: I'll send you down a couple of sticks of dynamite.....If it's not dynamite proof it's just no good :wtf: :drinks:


Don’t have a tractor but I’ve got a borrowed 5t excavator that should leave a scratch.
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by JSS » 14 Apr 2019, 10:22 am

TassieTiger wrote:
JSS wrote:
TassieTiger wrote:Well - I have one on the way for poos and laughs.
I intend to ensure it is tested to at least what the original you tube guy did and more...oh so much more lol


So you're saying you also have a tractor and some arrows on the way :thumbsup: I'll send you down a couple of sticks of dynamite.....If it's not dynamite proof it's just no good :wtf: :drinks:


Don’t have a tractor but I’ve got a borrowed 5t excavator that should leave a scratch.


That'll work just fine.
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by Ziad » 14 Apr 2019, 12:09 pm

Don't drive over it... the tracks spread the load around. Use the bucket and try and smash it or crush it on.concrete or your container roofs
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by elnino » 17 Apr 2019, 11:18 pm

I used to work for Carl Zeiss and I can tell you that although the optics in the better scopes are better it's not in line with price. A top of the line scope still only contains a few $ of lenses. Build quality, lens coatings and precision is where its at but still amazingly inflated pricing.

Having said that, I have a 'Tasco' 3-9×40 that i paid about $40 for ex China about 10 years ago and it is quite acceptable in terms of adjustments and holding center. Many cheap eBay scopes will not adjust properly on each plane (they interact) so it is a gamble.
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by bladeracer » 18 Apr 2019, 6:54 am

elnino wrote:I used to work for Carl Zeiss and I can tell you that although the optics in the better scopes are better it's not in line with price. A top of the line scope still only contains a few $ of lenses. Build quality, lens coatings and precision is where its at but still amazingly inflated pricing.

Having said that, I have a 'Tasco' 3-9×40 that i paid about $40 for ex China about 10 years ago and it is quite acceptable in terms of adjustments and holding center. Many cheap eBay scopes will not adjust properly on each plane (they interact) so it is a gamble.


Do you mean that they don't tend to maintain a consistent zero through the magnification range?
I haven't seen any measurable change over normal hunting ranges but it could potentially be a problem at long ranges perhaps.

I just bought a $30 3-9x40 scope so I might try it at 100m by shooting a ten-shot group at 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9-power and see if there's any measurable wander in the zero.
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by elnino » 18 Apr 2019, 7:14 am

no, I mean as you adjust elevation, windage is affected and/or vice versa. makes it basically impossible to sight it in.
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Post by bladeracer » 18 Apr 2019, 8:16 am

elnino wrote:no, I mean as you adjust elevation, windage is affected and/or vice versa. makes it basically impossible to sight it in.


I haven't encountered that problem with even very cheap scopes. How much variance are you talking about?
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by elnino » 18 Apr 2019, 8:24 am

A lot! The best way to test it has to hard mount the scope to something and try different zoom/elev/wind adjustments and see if the objective moves in the crosshairs. Mine is fine but once again - Luck of the draw.
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by bladeracer » 18 Apr 2019, 3:26 pm

elnino wrote:A lot! The best way to test it has to hard mount the scope to something and try different zoom/elev/wind adjustments and see if the objective moves in the crosshairs. Mine is fine but once again - Luck of the draw.


I would think the best way to test it is simply to shoot while making various adjustments and see if the bullets go where they're supposed to. If they do then it really doesn't matter if there's a perceived problem.
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by elnino » 18 Apr 2019, 4:21 pm

Hard mounting it just takes out the variables
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Post by bladeracer » 18 Apr 2019, 4:53 pm

elnino wrote:Hard mounting it just takes out the variables


I disagree, having tried hard-mounting rifles to try to sort problems. Fixing it to a surface simply changes the way it reacts giving you data that may not replicate the real world usage.
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Re: Would you put a $36 optic on your hunting rifle?

Post by bladeracer » 18 Apr 2019, 5:03 pm

elnino wrote:A lot! The best way to test it has to hard mount the scope to something and try different zoom/elev/wind adjustments and see if the objective moves in the crosshairs. Mine is fine but once again - Luck of the draw.


I would say you'd be extremely unlucky to get a scope that exhibits this problem. I've never seen it myself. I have around twenty scopes currently, and had a few 35 years ago, all at the cheaper end of the spectrum. Have you actually seen this yourself?

It occurs to me that you might be describing a parallax issue?
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