jezzab wrote:So I've typically sighted in my .25 PCP air rifle and .22LR on the bench with bags, relaxed etc. They are perfect at the range I sighted them in at and haven't had a problem even freehand (bar my skills holding it).
I've got a .223 I sighted in elsewhere and I couldn't use a bench, I had to do it a bit more "rustic" ie bonnet of the ute or fence. That drove me nuts as I feel it's not as accurate (little bit OCD and love data)
Is it less accurate? I've heard people says 'zero it as you will shoot it'.
I hate that but I kinda get the thinking. If you get recoil, it moves a certain way vs the bench depending how you react to that or hold it, you are 'consistent' in factoring that in zeroing that way.
Curious in other people's thoughts
Jez
jezzab wrote:I have a 7mm-08 to sight in in a couple of days, so I guess I'm debating bringing a table or just repeating the same as the 223 (or bringing the table and redoing the 223 while I'm at it)
jezzab wrote:Thanks for some great insight.
That's the thing, I see the bore line and the scope line hitting the zero distance as the "perfect" alignment. So anything you do after that is imperfect, that's the benchmark. But, being locked in with a bag and a bench is different to offhand and in the moment.
Blr243 wrote:I reckon blade might be the man to ask because he shoots heaps more practice than I do. So here goes. I zero my rifles and shotguns of little bags on tables on hunting trips .. then when I’m in the bush hunting I rest on a tree sometimes but mostly I shoot off hand real close 30 m max. I always drop the pigs but I want to know this … blade , after you have zeroed off a bench and then you test at 30 m off hand , is your poi the same with the different recoil environment? Or is your poi different ?
jezzab wrote:So I've typically sighted in my .25 PCP air rifle and .22LR on the bench with bags, relaxed etc. They are perfect at the range I sighted them in at and haven't had a problem even freehand (bar my skills holding it).
I've got a .223 I sighted in elsewhere and I couldn't use a bench, I had to do it a bit more "rustic" ie bonnet of the ute or fence. That drove me nuts as I feel it's not as accurate (little bit OCD and love data)
Is it less accurate? I've heard people says 'zero it as you will shoot it'.
I hate that but I kinda get the thinking. If you get recoil, it moves a certain way vs the bench depending how you react to that or hold it, you are 'consistent' in factoring that in zeroing that way.
Curious in other people's thoughts
Jez
animalpest wrote:You are zeroing your rifle, not you.
That means making sure the rifle is a steady as it can be within the rifles parameters of making it shoot the best - rifle hold, where the rifle is supported and by what etc.
I zero off a table with bags and then shoot out of the ute (a door rest) or on top of it (bipod) and if I miss hitting the itty bitty bit of a roos head I am aiming at, it's not the fault of the rifle
bladeracer wrote:animalpest wrote:You are zeroing your rifle, not you.
That means making sure the rifle is a steady as it can be within the rifles parameters of making it shoot the best - rifle hold, where the rifle is supported and by what etc.
I zero off a table with bags and then shoot out of the ute (a door rest) or on top of it (bipod) and if I miss hitting the itty bitty bit of a roos head I am aiming at, it's not the fault of the rifle
I disagree for a hunting rifle, you need to zero it to yourself so when you fire it in the field you can be confident the bullet will go where you want it. For a target rifle then sure, just zero the rifle and adjust based upon your sighters at the start of the match.
bladeracer wrote:animalpest wrote:You are zeroing your rifle, not you.
That means making sure the rifle is a steady as it can be within the rifles parameters of making it shoot the best - rifle hold, where the rifle is supported and by what etc.
I zero off a table with bags and then shoot out of the ute (a door rest) or on top of it (bipod) and if I miss hitting the itty bitty bit of a roos head I am aiming at, it's not the fault of the rifle
I disagree for a hunting rifle, you need to zero it to yourself so when you fire it in the field you can be confident the bullet will go where you want it. For a target rifle then sure, just zero the rifle and adjust based upon your sighters at the start of the match.