Over-scoping your "Big Game" rifle

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Over-scoping your "Big Game" rifle

Post by Wapiti » 01 Nov 2026, 5:23 pm

There's some pretty experienced hunters on this forum, real ones. Some blokes here even use rifles for making their income, or just hunt on foot whenever they can afford it.
We all know how we just hamstring ourselves with scopes too high in magnification, so we don't do it. It makes us slow, or even ineffective, and for the bloke who has spent half a lifetime breeding animals to a point of perfection, that is a terrible mistake. For the every-few-months hunter, who pains to get the right gear, gets time off, spends big $$$$ just getting into the bush, that's a no-go too.

I was sorting out some old Sporting Shooter magazines, this one from 2022, and I saw this ridiculous advertisement for Vortex scopes.
What a way to put a new shooter on the wrong track and take his money, and make everything after that diffcult.
I mean, it does say, a "hunting scope' for BIG GAME.
And, some caricature of a supposed knows-everything suave bloke with the movie-star moustashe called "Bluey", telling you this is the go.
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No wonder we see new hunters struggling to find game through hugely oversized scopes like these ones.
Not to mention the dull image from the high magnification range system internally.

What do you blokes reckon is the ideal magnification range for a "hunting" scope?
Not long range shooting, or heaven forbid, the perversion of long range sniping at animals. Walkabout hunting.
Variable? Fixed power?
Not important so much is the brand, because that's a hot topic, but ideal magnification, taking into account useable field-of-view, objective lens size (which if too big, stops a scope being mounted super-low which slows the shot down... like 50 or 56mm?).
Or do some people just buy a huge scope, and force themselves to adapt to the issues this causes?
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Post by bigrich » 01 Nov 2026, 6:05 pm

true hunting medium game with 308, 30-06 , ect , i've never been wanting with a 2-7x36 leupold . i'm swapping out that scope on my 338-06 for a 1.5-5 x20 leupold . i've made some shots out to 200 on 2.5 magnification as i didn't have time when a target presented itself . one shot , one dead pig . done that more than once and they're not exactly a small target. in close, or for when game is on the run, a wide field of vision is definitely a advantage . my 223 had a 3-9x40 on it for ages, no problem hitting hoppers in the heart at 200 . more isn't better IMHO when it comes to scopes. decent glass and a understanding of the ballistic drop of your rifle is . my range comp rifles have 4-14x40 scopes for use out to 200 . and i can see my bullet holes at 200 which helps me allow for wind drift . bit of a stiff breeze and a 50gn out of a 222 will drift a little at that distance .

the add you posted above is so misleading for a new hunter . be a alright scope for long range target or culling though .
you gunna put one on your 25-06 wapiti ? ;)

only thing that interests me in that add is the 3MOA reflex red dot . it'd go good on a lever scrub gun , or maybe one of those new ruger 16" barreled M77's in 358win . now we're talking :D
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Post by bigpete » 01 Nov 2026, 7:12 pm

2-7×33 or 3-9×40. Or just iron sights
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Post by No1_49er » 01 Nov 2026, 7:23 pm

I use a couple. 1 - 4x and a 1.5 - 5x. Absolutely ideal, IMHO.
Am also a competitive target rifle shooter. Taught my (very) junior son to thrash the rest of the contestants with his Sako 222Rem and scope set at x1. He enjoyed that :)
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Post by Wapiti » 01 Nov 2026, 8:06 pm

bigrich wrote:the add you posted above is so misleading for a new hunter . be a alright scope for long range target or culling though .
you gunna put one on your 25-06 wapiti ? ;)

only thing that interests me in that add is the 3MOA reflex red dot . it'd go good on a lever scrub gun , or maybe one of those new ruger 16" barreled M77's in 358win . now we're talking :D


Oh man, I cannot imagine what a mess culling would be with that scope.
What a cluster(f)uck.
You would want the best glass, field of view and NOTHING over 10x and that would be for the furthest smallest critters... if that.
Remember that culling, you are on a rest out of a buggy or vehicle, things take off after the first shot, and a human being cannot hold steady enough to max out 10x EVER.
I'd say a nice variable of the 3.5-10x40. Start on 6x and you will find after the first shot, 10x is NOT what you want after that.
Actually, I respectfully disagree with myself, my 1-8x24 is the best scope I have ever used for hunting, culling, critters on the run and anything for that matter.

On that reflex sight, that price is a punch in the face, especially in 2022, let alone now. Zerotech Chinese reflex sights are 2/3rds of that price NOW, if you want Chinese.
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Post by Wapiti » 01 Nov 2026, 8:11 pm

bigrich wrote:the add you posted above is so misleading for a new hunter . be a alright scope for long range target or culling though .
you gunna put one on your 25-06 wapiti ? ;)


Yes I am thinking about a new rifle, but it's not a 25-06 yet...
I'm in love with that Sako 90 Walnut Hunter blued in 6.5 x 55... Why I cannot explain apart from it's gorgeous and the other 6.5's have nothing I want.
If the 300 SAUM works out as a varmint rifle, eh. No 25-06 mate... as of yet. Still not convinced it will give me any benefit?
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Post by Wapiti » 01 Nov 2026, 8:16 pm

No1_49er wrote:I use a couple. 1 - 4x and a 1.5 - 5x. Absolutely ideal, IMHO.
Am also a competitive target rifle shooter. Taught my (very) junior son to thrash the rest of the contestants with his Sako 222Rem and scope set at x1. He enjoyed that :)

That's pretty conservative mate, I'm imagining that and you would not be disadvantaged, hunting wise.

bigpete wrote:2-7×33 or 3-9×40. Or just iron sights

Yeah Pete I use both those scopes too, and there isn't any disadvantage when running around the farm as allrounders whatsoever.
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Post by bigrich » 02 Nov 2026, 3:54 am

Wapiti wrote:
bigrich wrote:the add you posted above is so misleading for a new hunter . be a alright scope for long range target or culling though .
you gunna put one on your 25-06 wapiti ? ;)

only thing that interests me in that add is the 3MOA reflex red dot . it'd go good on a lever scrub gun , or maybe one of those new ruger 16" barreled M77's in 358win . now we're talking :D


Oh man, I cannot imagine what a mess culling would be with that scope.
What a cluster(f)uck.
You would want the best glass, field of view and NOTHING over 10x and that would be for the furthest smallest critters... if that.
Remember that culling, you are on a rest out of a buggy or vehicle, things take off after the first shot, and a human being cannot hold steady enough to max out 10x EVER.
I'd say a nice variable of the 3.5-10x40. Start on 6x and you will find after the first shot, 10x is NOT what you want after that.
Actually, I respectfully disagree with myself, my 1-8x24 is the best scope I have ever used for hunting, culling, critters on the run and anything for that matter.

On that reflex sight, that price is a punch in the face, especially in 2022, let alone now. Zerotech Chinese reflex sights are 2/3rds of that price NOW, if you want Chinese.


funny you should mention 6x for culling . that's where i had my 3-9 set most of the time . a lot of older rifles i see pop up for sale in 222 , like old model 70 xtr's, quite often have a fixed 6x on them . maybe people back when worked out that's what was appropriate ;) i've got a 4-14 on my 223 rifle now as the 3-9 needed repair and i had this other scope sitting in the cupboard . yeah prices are up on yank stuff , still , when you live in a country that destroys it national wealth and living standards by manufacturing and exporting nothing , and importing everything, stuff starts to get expensive . i'm a bit dubious on anything chinese , and won't support the communists by buying their products if i can help it :thumbsup:
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Post by bigrich » 02 Nov 2026, 4:14 am

Wapiti wrote:
bigrich wrote:the add you posted above is so misleading for a new hunter . be a alright scope for long range target or culling though .
you gunna put one on your 25-06 wapiti ? ;)


Yes I am thinking about a new rifle, but it's not a 25-06 yet...
I'm in love with that Sako 90 Walnut Hunter blued in 6.5 x 55... Why I cannot explain apart from it's gorgeous and the other 6.5's have nothing I want.
If the 300 SAUM works out as a varmint rifle, eh. No 25-06 mate... as of yet. Still not convinced it will give me any benefit?


they are a fine rifle . sako's balance very well offhand as well . as for 6.5x55 it's got the most going for it i in 6.5 bore reckon . i've looked into the efficiency of cartridges , P O ackley had a bit of insight into this . depending on bore size , there's a point at which you get diminishing returns for the amount of powder burned . a lot of the older european cartridges were designed to be efficient . 6.5x55 and 7x57 mauser are examples of this , as is the 222 . mr ackley believed the best of his modified improved cases was the 250 savage and the 7x57 . in uncle nicks reloading manual check out the loads and ballistics for the 7x57 improved, compared to other 7mm cases . good speed for the amount of powder burned .
as usual , i've digressed :roll: what i'm trying to say is the 6.5x55 is the optimum case size for that bore . IMHO anyway :D
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Post by mchughcb » 02 Nov 2026, 5:40 am

If you shoot the 416 Rem Mag or 500NE, eye relief is the most important aspect . The best was the Swarovski Z6i EE 1-6x24. Very hard to get these days since they were discontinued.
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Post by Wapiti » 02 Nov 2026, 6:32 am

mchughcb wrote:If you shoot the 416 Rem Mag or 500NE, eye relief is the most important aspect . The best was the Swarovski Z6i EE 1-6x24. Very hard to get these days since they were discontinued.


I can imagine some have found out the hard way there.
Yes the Swarovski Zi lines are incredible scopes, I am lucky enough to have put one on an autoloader 308, a Z8i in 1-8x. It has a 1x that is a REAL 1x which you can even adjust less than that. Unreal.

Funny story, when I got that rifle it was after a lot of bureaucratic BS, both from Qld Weapons and then ever more, the Attorney Generals dept, to release the rifle. Ones already second hand, a different story. So after all that stuff I was determined to put a scope on it that suited it - close up and far out there, within actual animal taking ranges, not marketing rubbish.
The shop where I bought it had all these scopes laid out for me as well as the mount - all high magnification stuff but good gear, typical was a VX5 3-15x50, that sort of scope. Agan, see?
I wanted a true 1-8x or a 1-10x, but found all 1-10x were quite unforgiving with the eyebox, and even though big "tactical" names, were just not right. Even NF had some issues and was not a real 1x, and had issues up at 8x, - issues up top and a dull view.
I looked at the other German 1-8x and saw the same things.
Then I found the Swarovski, and this scope is so crystal clear at 8x, you can be anywhere near the eyebox and get a beautiful fast sight picture, and at 1x with the red doughnut/dot on, it's a red dot. No better suited glass.
And there has not been a time where 8x across open country has not allowed a head shot, even on dark, drizzly days, of course helped because of the unreal accuracy of the rifle.
8x might be a high for a 416, NE etc because of their intended use though, the z6i would be the perfect choice.

But it was funny, the gunshop thought I was off my rocker not over-scoping it.
They had a Vortex Razor Gen3 1-10x, but looking through that awful thing made my eyes point in different directions. God it was strange. Plus it was a FFP scope which is a ridiculous choice for anyone hunting.
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Post by Fester » 02 Nov 2026, 8:00 pm

Pretty stupid ad for sure, the big game bit had nothing to do with reality, just words to suck in a newb.

Lots of those blokes that walk into a shop to buy their first rifle to hunt with, and decided a .308 is the choice could easily be sucked into buying a star-watching scope instead of the 3-9x40 that would have suited them and cost heaps less.
Likely better off buying the package with a Tasco 3-9 and one of those cheap bags.
They could then use it and get an idea what scope upgrade to buy.

I often wondered if scopes suited to a big game rifle to shoot big animals at fairly close ranges had longer eye relief.
I would sure be thinking about it on that 1-6 or 2-8.

I have never really needed to use 1 or 2x, and those 6-9s and 4-12s are just so versatile; it's all I need for my types of shooting.
The scope is set on minimum mag before it goes into the car, so always ready to shoulder and take a quick shot if a deer steps out.
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Post by mchughcb » 02 Nov 2026, 8:02 pm

I always thought 2.5X was a good minimum power.
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Post by bigrich » 02 Nov 2026, 8:12 pm

mchughcb wrote:I always thought 2.5X was a good minimum power.


me too . i run a 2.5-8x36 vx3i on my 308 tikka . does everything i need . like fester said , mine is set on 2.5 at all times, and upped for longer shots as required . when i remember to ;)
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Post by Damo300 » 02 Nov 2026, 10:18 pm

2 to 3 power is my preference.
Fov is what I like. Quick target acquisition in the low light.

How would that 6 zoom be at 30m in low light?
You'd be looking at the ticks in its fur.... :D
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Post by CJRBOLTGUN1 » 03 Nov 2026, 9:02 am

For me it's simply a fixed power scope 6x or 8x and that's it, all I need when pointing that gun at whatever within the point-blank range, no need to fumble with parallax dials or zoom in or out, point and shoot
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Post by Wapiti » 03 Nov 2026, 7:43 pm

For me now, having used a scope with a minimum of 1x on a truly versatile rifle over about 2000 rounds now to get a good opinion, all in the field, that's sold me.
I would never swap it out for anything else.

Jumping out of the buggy or ute and following a big boar into waist high reedy creek grass down a winding gully and the big bugger is lying doggo, and he could be at 3m away, you still need to aim.
Both eyes open with a true 1x with that red doughnut with centre dot floating in mid-air, with nothing obscuring your peripheral vision, there is nothing better.
Then wind up to 8x and there is no long shot you can't take, and when going for a stroll, wind it to 4-6x depending on where you are and you have it covered.
IF you have a cartridge that can handle whatever pops up, that's another story.
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Post by mchughcb » 03 Nov 2026, 7:53 pm

The leica magnus 1-6-24 is a great scope with 42m fov @100m.
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Post by Damo300 » 04 Nov 2026, 2:54 am

I just got a zerotech 1-10x30 for my 177 air rifle.
It's a stepping stone to a VX3HD.
Didn't know whether I'd gel with such low zoom but it seems I had nothing to worry about.
I love this thing.

That VX3i 4.5-14 I have will be getting swapped out eventually. It's a beautiful scope, just shyte FOV for close range stuff.
I let a deer skip away last hunt because identifying it in low light, in amongst the blackberry bush was terrible. Not only that, the slightest barrel movement and it moves so much in the scope.
I too shoot with both eyes open.
I don't seem to strike that issue with my 3X and 2.5X scopes, and now I reckon this 1X will be my new favourite.
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Post by Wapiti » 04 Nov 2026, 5:51 am

Yes I have a number of the 4.5-14x Vx3i scopes, and three similar Mk4 versions (same internal stats) but they are on rifles not used for walking, they are from out of vehicle stuff, or long range shooting. On a number of calibres. A couple of heavy barrel 223's, 308's and even a 300 SAUM.
Very good performing scopes and I would never move them on for the purposes they are there.
I do not find a FOV issue in that case, I'm lucky too in that the rifles they are on come up to my eye and point where I'm looking for some reason. Low as possible mounting and stocks designed to point help a lot there I suppose. Maybe it's a familiarity thing from using the setups a bit, and sticking to the one setup between rifles.

But no, they are not ideal hunting scopes I reckon. Just me, so I don't use them for that.

On an all rounder, an autoloader as I use one on, or maybe a rifle meant for snap shooting that's required to do longer stuff as well, the 1-8x shines.
So far, I have not found a 1-10 that didn't have a terribly fussy eyebox, or a dull image on 10x or both.
I have seen literature that even Leupold won't make one as this hasn't been ironed out yet, neither will the great makers like Swaro and Zeiss (German builds) etc.

Maybe when that's ironed out, I will look see but having had the disapointment of paying for a Zerotech before, it's sitting on the shelf to be given to someone who hasn't seen how easy these European scopes are to use and how bright they are. But at 5x the price, one would expect this. And if you don't know the difference, you will still love the versatility of the magnification range and will work around the other limitations.

A great scope on a rifle with a bit of range, with excellent optics and a great slim stature is the 3.5-10x40 VX3i or HD, excellent scopes, bright as buggery and tough as nails. I do not have a 3-9x40 Z3 yet, but imagine that would be unreal.
A 25mm tube scope is a far lighter, better-balanced scope than a 30mm tube.
Who the hell is "Bluey" anyway?
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Post by Fester » 04 Nov 2026, 9:51 am

I know about the target acquisition problems if mag is wound up, but never had an issue at 4x.
My rifles do shoulder and point straight where I am looking; practice helped me make sure, and both eyes are always open.

Maybe at 10m, but I don't think I have ever had a shot opportunity at that close a range; there would likely be no time, and bolting deer are not slow.

With so much on the market, I still think I would just go a good quality 3-9, and should get decent value, with everone making them.
Is 1 or 2 times mag that much better, or only at super close-range target acquisition?
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Post by mchughcb » 04 Nov 2026, 2:34 pm

I once hunted with a guy from WA we took on a hound hunt. He had a very nice 3.5 -15 or whatever it was scope on his rifle. I said 3.5x is way too much scope and he looked at me with like wtf. We put him on a track and a deer ran past at 10m. Never even saw it. Later he said for this type of hunting he was over scoped. Horses for courses.
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Post by Damo300 » 04 Nov 2026, 2:51 pm

All my rifles shoulder very nicely. No problems with eye relief.
I know it's operator error. After all, firearms are pretty consistent.

I do seem to struggle hunting with higher, low end zoom, especially at 20m in twilight pine forrest and blackberries situation.
Also, I was in a stupid position on the ground after it barked at me while I was crossing an intersection.
As you could imagine, you drop and then try to load a round, raising the rifle smoothly as to not spook the animal, while it stares at you trying to work out what you are, and I only got eyes on her as I was raising the rifle.
All excuses I know, but had to be there to see it. Would have been funny as truck.
But if you're not confident, don't squeeze.
I'll live by that rule so others can live around me.

She was hard to see with the naked eye, let alone this telescope.
I'll keep praticing though. It's the first zoom of this level I've had.
I'm sure at 100m it'll be very nice to acquire a target
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Post by Wapiti » 04 Nov 2026, 7:33 pm

I can tell from some of the comments that we do have huge divides in the type of "shooting" as compared to hunting.
For example chasing pigs that run into high grass-choked gullies when you are out checking stock is not hunting, and I won't pretend it to be.
But if you've walked up on a boar you were looking for (and I'm looking across the room here to try and get a real distance for one example), and it's at 4m away facing you in a position to bolt, and it's getting up to either go straight at you or off somewhere else, I can tell you 4x is hopeless. Absolutely pointless and on the wrong day, you are going to be hurt.
Hunting deer in a forest, well fine. But do not think a 3-9x40 is a scrub scope. That's why the LVPO (hate that name actually) is so good.

In fact, when the big names make a 1-10x that is as incredibly flexible and so bright and sharp as the European ones are and they finally solve that terrible finnicky eye box that they (the Chinese 1-10x) all have now, I'll be shopping.

mchughcb wrote:I once hunted with a guy from WA we took on a hound hunt. He had a very nice 3.5 -15 or whatever it was scope on his rifle. I said 3.5x is way too much scope and he looked at me with like wtf. We put him on a track and a deer ran past at 10m. Never even saw it. Later he said for this type of hunting he was over scoped. Horses for courses.


Exactly. This is another example of what I'm getting at.
Imagine that scope on 3.5x when a big boar decides he's had enough up close. Or the bloke who knows it all goes after that scrub bull like the very angry f*ckers on the joint next door, eyeing you from behind a patch of scrub at 5m.
Suddenly, you will learn what's being said here.
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Post by Fester » 05 Nov 2026, 10:05 am

I have 2 scrub guns, the short shotty has a red dot and the 30-30, a Skinner peep.
I just can't really carry one, unless after a successful hunt, as the longer shot opportunity would be missed.

The shotty has never even been blooded.

I proved that carrying a brush gun would just about assure that I see the deer at 200.
I left the day pack in the car, and carried the 2 light guns.
There they were, and the shotty was left on the ground to stalk as far as possible and shoot one with the rifle, and some zoomies.

The only Bushnell I have and don't like is when they first went Chinese and made that cheap range of scopes that had BDC reticles, supposedly sighted for different calibers.
It can be clear and crisp to look through, but the fussy eye box just kills it for me; it also has a slightly longer eye relief than all the others, so it catches me out.

Sometimes it goes on the sluggie, but more often it sits in its box.
I think they even put AR in the name, but couldn't fit Tactical, or it would have been there as well.
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Post by Wapiti » 05 Nov 2026, 6:07 pm

Yes I know the scopes, I had one sitting on a 22 I bought, it had these dicky little discs I think that you could exchange out whether you have a 22, a .17hmr or 22mag, it was for some BDC drop BS. It was made in China so it hit the bin with a clang.
So did the cheesy Sports Match mounts, clubby, hideous aluminium things. I got online and bought some beautiful steel Soth African-made Lynx mounts.

A mate bought this AR scope, Bushnell too, I think it's what you had. The reticle fell out one night when he was roo shooting, with his heavy barrel Savage 223.
It had these confusing hash marks for distance, that weren't correct.
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Post by Fester » 05 Nov 2026, 9:20 pm

Yeah, it's not a particularly good BDC reticle either.

It's a predecessor Bushy scope for the 22s was a better one with a classic X-tree that worked fine.
Still just a $200 scope when shops had good sales and the reticle lines were fine enough for .22 target shooting.
They may have been Jap made, back then. Trophy Extreme, maybe with a $300 rrp.
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Post by Wapiti » 06 Nov 2026, 6:19 am

I remember the push that bigger scopes were what you needed to be any good at anything to do with shooting and hunting.
I remember it started about 20 years ago really.
I remember being pushed by advertising and marketing, everywhere we looked in retail situations. Scopes were getting better and better really fast, optically-wise, to a point a few years ago where I think they reached a point where advances are not really advances at all.
The brands regarded as the kings of clear and beautiful bright images in a strong sleek size took second place to the new monsters with 34mm, now 35mm tubes to fit in the huge drop of bullets falling from the sky way out. It seems Asian quality is easier to be acceptable when the packages become larger.
Nothing wrong with wanting gear that makes what you like doing easier.

I wonder how todays shooters, to which a 5-25x massive 35mm scope is on the low-end, would be able to understand how in 1995, we used to compete on the 1000yd range with semi-auto rifles on pop-up targets, moving targets, and steel poppers that are only 200mm wide and 400mm high on sticks, at 500yds under timers, using the Jap tasco 4x scopes. They would laugh.

It's just that this type of gear is so restrictive to use for hunting, to the point where people miss most opportunities because of hugely restrictive field-of-view, very fussy and restrictive eyeboxes - fine when you are at a bush-bench or on a fancy-pants shooting mat on a bipod looking for your target put up at 1000yds. That's when you have the time to find the target, screw with the parallax - absolutely essential with high magnification and distance. Especially as Asian manufacturers just have trouble with getting clarity around the edges and getting an image that doesn't look like when checking the chimney in the kitchen wood stove.

That's why I thought that add was funny, because it sums up all that's todays bullsh*t marketing.
Hunting scopes are not target scopes, although a good skilled shooter can use a quality hunting optic for shooting longer ranges, the other way around is quite pointless.
Who the heck is "Bluey" anyway? :?
I remember there was a bloke called "Warrigal Mick" who used to pop up in shooting magazines 20 years ago with all these "tips" which quite often were thinly disguised ads.
Then there were the gun mag "reviews" on gun stuff, especially cheaper Asian scopes where if you really tried, you could read between the lines that the reviewer wasn't impressed but his job meant he had to please the advertisers.
I remember Nick Harvey writing an article once how so much of his writing on gun gear reviews was done through basically gritted teeth, and that at times he felt like a cheap hooker. My paraphrasing here.

It's so blatantly cheap, paid-for advice now in the shooting "journalist" industry now.
Years ago, articles that were just paid ads were titled in small print up top of the page as "infomercials" but not now.
Look at Sporting Shooter online on YouTube and the editor doing all the reviews now. A journalist initially from the dying demand for motorcycling/motoring media, parachuted sideways into a role to hang onto his job suddenly becomes a "lifelong hunter and firearms expert". And, for necessity to keep a dying magazine alive the most crumbly piece of cheaply made gear is a "game changer".
Look at the SSAA posted magazine "The Report". Every edition in the last how long? features one, if not two, paid-for articles on Zerotech optics. Then, if they are reviewing some rifle, the scope on that gun is Zerotech too, and half of the rifle article becomes another Zerotech fan-boy description. I suppose when you find people who are easily bought off, you just keep sending them free gear.
It's so easy for the companies to pay for all these ads and handing over scopes and binos for free to writers, to charge $1000 for a Chinese scope here in Aus for something the importers of a brand that is made by a massive mass-production Chinese optics factory for $150 each leaves a lot for market saturation and freebies galore.

What other explanation is there, for the shooting public who mean so well and rely on good advice, get sucked in to buying gear that's so limiting to what they are doing. And they will never know how difficult they have made it for themselves, because they haven't tried the gear that makes it so much easier. People are pretty good at adapting to something if they are steered up the wrong road.
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Re: Over-scoping your "Big Game" rifle

Post by fussy » 06 Nov 2026, 8:16 am

Even the F88AusSteyr with its 1.5x scope was a bit tight for close-range shots.

If you have a variable, start with the lowest power. You have time to up the magnification for something 20 miles away, but not to turn it down for something 5 metres away.
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Re: Over-scoping your "Big Game" rifle

Post by Wapiti » 07 Nov 2026, 8:22 am

The latest kitty litter-tray liner came in the letterbox Friday, courtesy of the SSAA Qld.
Here's an example of more BS from a rifle-range shooter who's now become an expert, whatever @Hunt.Aus means. To me, whatever that is, is not somewhere I will be going to get sucked in to or waste time with. Or give any credibility either.
Don't be so harsh, Grant, he's wearing the latest camo pants over his arse, so he must be an expert.
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At least the magazine isn't full of Chinese Zerotech saturation this month, but so far I've only gotten to page 35. There's hope yet.
On the good side, at least a quality optic for once is being reviewed. It's been a long drought.
Am I being too harsh? Or am I missing out on just accepting this latest obsession that magnification means more success?
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