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Re: Best value night vision scope deals

Post by xDom » 13 Aug 2019, 2:29 pm

I looked into the 008, ended up going for the 007 to allow me to swap between rifles.
Bloke that imported them said the 008 is perhaps 10% better in performance than the 007.
As far as battery life goes, I get many hours out of it, only weighs 250gm as well.
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Post by ramshackle » 13 Aug 2019, 3:36 pm

xDom wrote:I looked into the 008, ended up going for the 007 to allow me to swap between rifles.


I know one of these digital scopes, the ATN x-scope 4k pro I think (costs about AU$1.5K), saves "profiles" for each rifle, so you can move it from gun to gun and just call up the profile that includes the zero set, trajectory etc.

The weight is an issue for most people. Some of these digitals are hefty.
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Post by xDom » 13 Aug 2019, 5:32 pm

I have a compulsive disorder in that I obsessively read up on any item before purchasing. It took me six weeks before buying a pressure washer!
I don’t have first hand experience on any NV gear other than my own stuff, but I’ve read a lot of forums and opinions from others.
There seems to be a lot of people that say the ATN is heavy and has that many bells and whistles on it that it’s too complicated. It’s also said that it freezes up and needs to be rebooted on occasion.
The Pard is simple and light.
As I said, it’s only what I’ve read.
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Post by ramshackle » 13 Aug 2019, 5:36 pm

From Pulsar video on Gen 1 Gen2 etc

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xDom wrote:the ATN is heavy and has that many bells and whistles on it that it’s too complicated. It’s also said that it freezes up and needs to be rebooted on occasion. The Pard is simple and light.


Exactly the sort of feedback I need, thanks! It's also much cheaper
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Post by xDom » 13 Aug 2019, 5:42 pm

If you do decide to go for the 007/008 I read that some have had issues with the EBay specials from China. Things like the menu being in Chinese.
Maybe better to pay a little more and get one from an Aussie importer.

Check out the links I put up before, Night Hunter.
You can email the guy and ask questions.
I think Pete got his real cheap, from where , I don’t know. have a chat to him
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Post by ramshackle » 13 Aug 2019, 5:56 pm

Changing from Chinese to English is probably only a menu setting away. There's a google app that can translate for you just by pointing your phone at it. But thanks, yes, may be better to go with Night Hunter.

First want to do as you did, lots of research :)
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Post by marksman » 13 Aug 2019, 6:46 pm

I cant talk about the new ATN x-sight 4k pro but I did but one of there older x-sight 2's after reading all the hype about there cheaper digital night vision
I fried mine before being able to get it on a rifle and had a fair bit of trouble getting a refund, had to go to the maker to get an exchange
I had it sold before I received it, I would not buy another, the product was full of false promises that you had to wait for a patch to be bought out for a fix and most of the fixes were done by users who were good with that type of thing, you cant believe the salesman, but Pete and Xdom have these pard nv007's and can be relied on for a true review, I'm hinting at the kids and better half for one for xmass
like Xdom I would get the the pard nv007 because I would like to be able to fit the nv to multiple rifles :drinks:
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Post by ramshackle » 13 Aug 2019, 8:05 pm

Looks like the market here for digital NV in Australia is mostly Pard NV007 and some ATN. Anybody bought the Sightmark Wraith yet? There must be a heap of other offerings around too .... I mean, these things are basically just digicams with an IR light thrown in on the side. There should be heaps.

Also would be good to hear from someone with the ATN X-Sight 4K Pro. Marksman, you are not the first report about the crappiness of their products, but I have seen some rave reviews as well.
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Post by ramshackle » 14 Aug 2019, 9:20 am

ATN X-Scope II vs pigs https://youtu.be/lATDjYAWBkU

Good review of Sightmark Wraith https://youtu.be/GkgxHBoCjGE

Digital Night Vision vs Thermal https://youtu.be/7hYJ9BRIvdU
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Post by wanneroo » 14 Aug 2019, 12:42 pm

ramshackle wrote:From Pulsar video on Gen 1 Gen2 etc

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xDom wrote:the ATN is heavy and has that many bells and whistles on it that it’s too complicated. It’s also said that it freezes up and needs to be rebooted on occasion. The Pard is simple and light.




That photo looks phony baloney to me. Lets see the same man in the same stance and same exact lighting conditions for a side by side comparison.
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Post by mickb » 14 Aug 2019, 4:33 pm

Yes that photo is dodgy. Can someone explain what they mean by the digital NV example? Do they mean the cheapo stuff sold as digital? No way it works better than gen 2 and gen 3, at least the stuff I have seen.
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Post by ramshackle » 14 Aug 2019, 5:28 pm

marksman wrote:I cant talk about the new ATN x-sight 4k pro but I did but one of there older x-sight 2's after reading all the hype about there cheaper digital night vision. I fried mine before being able to get it on a rifle and had a fair bit of trouble getting a refund, had to go to the maker to get an exchange
I had it sold before I received it, I would not buy another, the product was full of false promises


The Amazon 1-star reviews of the ATN X-Sight 4K Pro would tend to support your experience, Marksman
https://www.amazon.com/ATN-Corporation- ... filter-bar

I see there may be some value in treating these new digiscopes that do everything bar wash the dishes with a degree of caution and scepticism. To that end, a simple add-on with a limited job to do, like the Pard NV007, may offer advantages.

Only problem is that I cannot find the Pard NV007 reviewed extensively anywhere, e.g. Amazon has only 1 review.
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Post by ramshackle » 14 Aug 2019, 9:47 pm

Thanks, good video. If your existing scope has a focus ring and the Pard has one too, has does that work out?
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Re: Best value night vision scope deals

Post by bigpete » 15 Aug 2019, 12:55 am

Quite well,and completely necessary
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Post by ramshackle » 15 Aug 2019, 8:46 am

Thanks BigPete. Some comments I've seen on the NV007:

Used both this and the NV008 (way better) It's very light and a great idea BUT the biggest problem this unit has is the in built 4x magnification - you get a very limited field of view, because it kind of turns a 4x setting on a scope into 16x : it's like looking into your scope, with a magnifying glass - all you can see is the center area of your reticle. This unit would be far far more useful had it been 1- 4 x mag


and in response to someone who said the NV007 is only good as a spotter scope and has poor onboard IR:

You're right about it being good as a spotter but to say its only good for 70yrds on a scope is pure rubbish.. I have one on a Hawke Vanguard scope and I can see 400 plus with its own IR. The reason you're saying it's not good with the top end IRs is because you're using LED IRs and the Pard 007 and 008 needs laser IRs then when set up correctly you will be amazed how good they are... you have it on the wrong scope and the wrong IRs


A YT channel called Drewslab commented on the NV007:

I can tell you I tested this against a Photon RT and Photon XT and ATN 4k. The rear addon (NV007), RT and 4k were about the same the XT photon was still better image than them all.


Here is the same guy showing that an external quality IR (PBIR-X 850nm IR Iluminator) gives much better range https://youtu.be/PTT0t81Hz_8
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Post by bigpete » 15 Aug 2019, 9:14 am

Well,it don't have an inbuilt 4x magnification for starters lol
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Post by ramshackle » 15 Aug 2019, 9:37 am

bigpete wrote:Well,it don't have an inbuilt 4x magnification for starters lol


Yeah, weird comment wasn't it? Maybe he's referring to the 3.5 digital zoom the Pard has? (Continuous digital Zoom: 1x/3.5x)
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