Meopta Meopro eye box

[Harrynsw]

Hi folks
Bought myself a Meopta Meopro 3.5-10x44. Happy with everything...except the eye box, not much difference between minimum magnification and maximum magnification, my eye has to be a very specific spot with little play to get a clear circle with no shadey areas.
Is this a Meopro trait or is my scope not right?
Thank you...

[bigrich]

Hi folks
Bought myself a Meopta Meopro 3.5-10x44. Happy with everything...except the eye box, not much difference between minimum magnification and maximum magnification, my eye has to be a very specific spot with little play to get a clear circle with no shadey areas.
Is this a Meopro trait or is my scope not right?
Thank you...

doesn't sound quite right. take it back to where it was bought and compare it to others , maybe exchange it if it's not correct . meopta's are normally VERY good scopes . good luck with it

[Bill]

Hey Harrynsw what other scopes do you own or are using, what are you comparing the 3.5-10x44 too ?

This a pretty good description of what eye box refers too

Skip to 5.40 to see how you should set your scope up Harry, see if it makes any diff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGoEjh7LXRM

[Lebner]

I've got the same scope and it sounds pretty similar. I had the 4-12x50 and it seemed better.

[Harrynsw]

Hi folks
Bought myself a Meopta Meopro 3.5-10x44. Happy with everything...except the eye box, not much difference between minimum magnification and maximum magnification, my eye has to be a very specific spot with little play to get a clear circle with no shadey areas.
Is this a Meopro trait or is my scope not right?
Thank you...

doesn't sound quite right. take it back to where it was bought and compare it to others , maybe exchange it if it's not correct . meopta's are normally VERY good scopes . good luck with it

Thanks bigrich, just as I thought, dosnt seem right, iv packed it back in the box ready to go back to place of purchase for a visit.

[Harrynsw]

Hey Harrynsw what other scopes do you own or are using, what are you comparing the 3.5-10x44 too ?

This a pretty good description of what eye box refers too

Skip to 5.40 to see how you should set your scope up Harry, see if it makes any diff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGoEjh7LXRM

Hi Bill, I'm comparing it to a Zeiss Terra, and a Vortex Crossfire, and it definitely dosnt come close to either...
Thanks for the link

[Harrynsw]

I've got the same scope and it sounds pretty similar. I had the 4-12x50 and it seemed better.

Oh wow ok, this is interesting, how do you find it for quick target acquisition? I love everything about it, the glass, the way it looks, the Reticle, the illuminated red dot, but this eyebox thing is going to be a deal breaker.

[Bill]

Harry I have a few of the 3.5-10x44 including an illuminated one and all seem fine for me, as suggested take it back doesnt sound right.

[Harrynsw]

Harry I have a few of the 3.5-10x44 including an illuminated one and all seem fine for me, as suggested take it back doesnt sound right.

Appreciate the input, thanks.

[Lebner]

I just had another play with the meopta and I've decided mine isn't as bad as you describe. I must have leaned into it too far last time I used it,
It seems to keep a full clear picture for about 2" or so before the edges start to darken.

[Bill]

Yeap sounds about right Lebner, I had a play with a couple of Meopta's and a Sightron STac this morning and all seemed to have about 30-40mm. Setting up you scope correctly as described in that youtube video had me adjusting 2 of my scopes this morning

[Harrynsw]

And we have a conclusion...I went back to the store today, scope and receipt in hand...
First they tried to tell me it was completely normal, I just looked at the guy and said "I'm not happy with it"...so they started bringing out different scopes, but nothing similar as stocks were low due to current circumstances.

After an hour (although it has a bit to much magnification, the offer was to good to refuse) the glass was real nice, I walked away with the Zeiss Conquest HD5 3-15x42.

[Bill]

Holy s**t straight swap ?? if so thats a ripper deal

[TassieTiger]

Done well Harry ! Nice.
Amazes me how ppl sing praises of meo- without alerting the negatives...they are a decent scope for sure, but in my opinion, there are much better options out there for same money. Case in point.

[Harrynsw]

Holy s**t straight swap ?? if so thats a ripper deal

Yep straight swap, only thing I can put it down to is it was an ex-demo of sorts or just old stock.

[Harrynsw]

Done well Harry ! Nice.
Amazes me how ppl sing praises of meo- without alerting the negatives...they are a decent scope for sure, but in my opinion, there are much better options out there for same money. Case in point.

Cheers thanks.

[Bill]

Everything subjective TT I remember watching the Nioa TV episode where they tested the VX3i, Meopro, Ziess Terra and Swaro Z3 and it completely turned me off Z3's.

Im happy with Meopro's, I paid $500-620 for 3 diff models, this was well before price rises 2 years ago, HD5 is a scope Ive considered many times but Im rought with rifles and scopes so I stick to stuff I can afford to break

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLX8r_BH0cA

[TassieTiger]

^ your basing your optics decision on an importers opinion ? Wonder how much profit NIOA makes from each brand ... I’ll take a guess ? Lol. Some interesting comments at the end of video...saying similar.

[straightshooter]

The effect you are referring to is called vignetting.
What must be understood with any scope design is that to make a gain in one parameter means diminishing one or more other parameters.
So possibly by limiting the range of critical eye relief some other feature has been enhanced.

As for the commentators regarding one importer making unfavourable comparisons of another importer's products compared to his own, just how gullible are you?

[Harrynsw]

Everything subjective TT I remember watching the Nioa TV episode where they tested the VX3i, Meopro, Ziess Terra and Swaro Z3 and it completely turned me off Z3's.

Im happy with Meopro's, I paid $500-620 for 3 diff models, this was well before price rises 2 years ago, HD5 is a scope Ive considered many times but Im rought with rifles and scopes so I stick to stuff I can afford to break

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLX8r_BH0cA

After watching the video it seems sincere. There was a time a couple of years ago the Zeiss Terra scopes went from $650 to $450 overnight (might've been after this review)...

[Bill]

With little other ' Testing' going on Id say it was worth watching, I had a Zeiss Terra for about 6 months when Abela's first had em on special and the first trip to St Mary revealed everything I needed to know I sold it.

Your Conquest with the HD glass is a good bit of kit Harry

Tassie the USA built Swaro's are overpriced I reckon, if they were around $600 they'd probably represent better value. Atleast with the Meopro you know your getting half decent Euro quality glass ( not HD thou like the R1, R2) with pretty good low light ability, something the NIOA boys alluded too and they dont sell Meopta's, thats their competitor Winchester

[Harrynsw]

The effect you are referring to is called vignetting.
What must be understood with any scope design is that to make a gain in one parameter means diminishing one or more other parameters.
So possibly by limiting the range of critical eye relief some other feature has been enhanced.

As for the commentators regarding one importer making unfavourable comparisons of another importer's products compared to his own, just how gullible are you?

I get that, was very hard to find all the features i wanted, and this Meopta ticked most boxes, so I was very disappointed when I had to take it back.
Iv been diligently sifting through scopes for months and in the end I settled for what came closest to what I wanted, glass on the conquest was a pleasure to look through for extended periods without feeling that eye strain you get in cheaper scopes.

In regards to gullibility, that video showed footage and pictures of the results. I would dare say NIOA would be facing a LARGE lawsuit if they were found to be misleading, which would be very costly, not only to their pockets, but their reputation, which in turn will also hit their pocket. Just saying...

[TassieTiger]

With little other ' Testing' going on Id say it was worth watching, I had a Zeiss Terra for about 6 months when Abela's first had em on special and the first trip to St Mary revealed everything I needed to know I sold it.

Your Conquest with the HD glass is a good bit of kit Harry

Tassie the USA built Swaro's are overpriced I reckon, if they were around $600 they'd probably represent better value. Atleast with the Meopro you know your getting half decent Euro quality glass ( not HD thou like the R1, R2) with pretty good low light ability, something the NIOA boys alluded too and they dont sell Meopta's, thats their competitor Winchester

Well Bill, sadly, and it pains me to say lol - I have to agree with you. Except - with US dollar, Leo’s and similar have risen 20% and now (in some cases) have surpassed swarvo, etc in price - but one does have to assume others will rise to even out the field eventually.

[SCJ429]

I think the beer drinking yobbo presenters from NIOA were pretty honest about their interest in the Leupold line of scopes and their observations regarding the far from scientific test. If you were able to get four scopes you were interested in and choose one based on the way things appear, you could do something similar. At the end of the day all four were perfectly serviceable scopes.

I am not sure I would rely on any YouTube type review to inform my decision but they can be interesting.

[straightshooter]

So, I masochistically watched the video, which more correctly should be called an infomercial, and there is nothing untoward regarding what is said.
However there is something unsettling about blokes that probably hold managerial positions in the Nioa organisation clowning around like yobbos attempting to endear themselves to their target audience.
It is patently obvious the infomercial is targeting an uninformed (or advertising brainwashed) shooter and it is of more interest to me what they don't say that might potentially inform shooters rather than what they do say so as to steer them towards a particular brand.
My take on the matter is that the Swarowski must be eroding sales from Nioa's high margin mid priced line. Why else tout your $600 scope as superior to your competitor's $1000 scope and then as a backstop suggest a lesser competitor's $600 scope is just about as good as good as your $600 scope.
This is a classic retail marketing tactic.

[marksman]

Well Bill, sadly, and it pains me to say lol - I have to agree with you. Except - with US dollar, Leo’s and similar have risen 20% and now (in some cases) have surpassed swarvo, etc in price - but one does have to assume others will rise to even out the field eventually.

this shows the type of bloke you are Tassie, you can look at the big picture and see things truthfully

yet Bill wont accept that Trump derangement syndrome is real

[Bill]

Haha I can see the big picture with my 30mm Sightron

I reckon you better take something medicinal for the TDS you're suffering Marksman

[marksman]

at least you had a laugh Bill

[Bill]

Where's his bible marksman .....

[Harrynsw]

at least you had a laugh Bill

Trump is the Best.