Red dot scope accuracy and MOA ratings

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Red dot scope accuracy and MOA ratings

Post by mahna » 11 Dec 2014, 2:53 pm

Hi guys,

About red dot scopes... You can get 4MOA and 2MOA dot scopes (and whatever other options there are)

How does a red dot get more accurate? :?

Is it a sharper edged dot or what? Hard to tell from google pictures.
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Re: Red dot scope accuracy and MOA ratings

Post by North East » 11 Dec 2014, 3:38 pm

mahna wrote:Hi guys,

About red dot scopes... You can get 4MOA and 2MOA dot scopes (and whatever other options there are)

How does a red dot get more accurate? :?

Is it a sharper edged dot or what? Hard to tell from google pictures.


A red dot is only as accurate as you make it through sighting it in. I use a 2MOA dot. The big advantage of them it the lack a parralax error enabling quick accurate shots at short range. A prefer a 2MOA for less coverage of the target.

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Post by North East » 11 Dec 2014, 3:46 pm

That's a 1X scope.
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Post by Baldrick314 » 11 Dec 2014, 4:03 pm

mahna wrote:Hi guys,

About red dot scopes... You can get 4MOA and 2MOA dot scopes (and whatever other options there are)

How does a red dot get more accurate? :?

Is it a sharper edged dot or what? Hard to tell from google pictures.


The MOA refers to the size of the red dot. The larger the number the larger the dot and hence the more space it will cover.
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Re: Red dot scope accuracy and MOA ratings

Post by mahna » 14 Dec 2014, 12:33 pm

Baldrick314 wrote:The MOA refers to the size of the red dot. The larger the number the larger the dot and hence the more space it will cover.


Perfect, thanks.
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Post by mahna » 14 Dec 2014, 12:35 pm

North East wrote:A red dot is only as accurate as you make it through sighting it in.


Huh?

Not following... If it isn't zeroed you won't target with anything.... That doesn't change "accuracy" though, just point of impact.

Unless I misunderstood...
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Post by Tiiger » 14 Dec 2014, 12:35 pm

mahna wrote:Is it a sharper edged dot or what? Hard to tell from google pictures.


Get to your LGS and look through both and you'll see ;)
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Post by yoshie » 14 Dec 2014, 3:27 pm

It's more of a precession thing, big dot covers more of the target which makes it easier to see but if it covers your whole target it makes it difficult to place a bullet precisely. The further out you use them the more of the target the dot covers.
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Post by tiki » 15 Dec 2014, 3:03 pm

You must have to be a fair march away from your target for the dot to cover it though?

4 MOA will cover a 4" target at 100m right?

Shouldn't give you trouble with anything other than a rabbit?

Still fine for small game?

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Post by Korkt » 15 Dec 2014, 7:53 pm

Red dot wouldn't be the first choice for most rabbit hunters that's true. Certainly not if 100+ yards was the normal expected range.

For small game and up though, a 2 MOA scope would be perfectly usable on pigs, goats, and anything larger up to 200m comfortably. And further depending on the shooter.
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Post by Arth » 16 Dec 2014, 1:35 pm

Copy / pasted from pracshooters link above :)

The diode modules are available in six different sizes; 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, and 16 moa. The size of the dot is measured in minutes of angle (moa), with 1 minute of angle being equal to 1 inch @ 100 yards (approx.). Example; a 2 moa module will produce a dot that will cover 2 inches of your target @ 100 yards, a 6 moa module will cover 6 inches, and so on. When you reduce the target distance by half, you also reduce the minute of angle by half. Example; the 2 moa module will cover 1 inch @ 50 yards, the 6 moa module will cover 3 inches @ 50 yards, and so on.

See the chart below to determine the size of each module at different distances.

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Post by Will » 16 Dec 2014, 1:35 pm

16 MOA dot @ 300y :lol:

Good for hunting barn doors.
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Post by yoshie » 16 Dec 2014, 5:38 pm

I had a 8 moa Bushnell on a revolver and it was useless at 200m rams, easy to see tho. 2 moa would be better.
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Post by North East » 16 Dec 2014, 6:54 pm

Aimpoint use a 2MOA red dot. That will get you to out 300 yards if you want to. It's not designed for it though and thrives in a short range environment.

Sub 100 yards is there forte. Just put the dot on the target and squeeze the trigger, don't worry about your head position for there is no parallax error to deal with. Keep both eyes open and go for it.

But you have to pay for quality, $800.00 for the Aimpoint Hunter H34S 1X red dot....$800.00 with no magnification.
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Re: Red dot scope accuracy and MOA ratings

Post by mahna » 17 Dec 2014, 9:06 am

200m would more likely be my max so that's no issue.

They do sound great, but $800 is really more than I could justify for one at this point.

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