Who has spent as much on glass as their rifle?

[bigfellascott]

I haven't re installed it yet. Stripped the bridge mount/scope off at the LGS to check the model stamps on top of the receiver. Even though we knew the year made therefore model anyway. 1981 BRNO 30-06... Ummm maybe a ZKK600? Of course

It is clear to look through, just scoped my animals out the back. The cross hairs are fine alright but the wider sections do draw you to centre quite well. Like most Plex in this style. Haven't tried it in low light yet or under spotty. Will do tomorrow. Geoff my LGS owner said he used to sell them when he started out in the industry 25 years ago.

I look forward to seeing how you find them under the light mate. Nothing wrong with the Jap Tascos - they are generally very good.

[KWhorenet]

Just googled 'gold crown' and see the scopes the old man had in the 80's/90's were Nikko Sterling 4x32 Silver Crown and 6x40 Gold Crown.
Were great under light. never used them much in the day. 80% was spot lighting, day shooting was 410 SB, pumpy 12G or 22lr semi with iron sights mainly.

[bigfellascott]

Just googled 'gold crown' and see the scopes the old man had in the 80's/90's were Nikko Sterling 4x32 Silver Crown and 6x40 Gold Crown.
Were great under light. never used them much in the day. 80% was spot lighting, day shooting was 410 SB, pumpy 12G or 22lr semi with iron sights mainly.

Yeah I think the Jap versions were well made for the $$ like the Tasco Jap Scopes.

[Franky]

Just googled 'gold crown' and see the scopes the old man had in the 80's/90's were Nikko Sterling 4x32 Silver Crown and 6x40 Gold Crown.
Were great under light. never used them much in the day. 80% was spot lighting, day shooting was 410 SB, pumpy 12G or 22lr semi with iron sights mainly.

The Nikko Sterling 4x32 Silver Crown were standard issue with the Ruger 10/22 or so it seemed back then everyone had one of each. the ruger and the 4x32

[FuzzyM]

I could easily spend what my Savage Axis cost on a decent scope for it.
Damn these accurate affordable rifles.....

This is what I'm looking at:
http://www.ozscopes.com.au/nikon-monarc ... scope.html

No more funds available for shooting for awhile though.

[brett1868]

I could easily spend what my Savage Axis cost on a decent scope for it.
Damn these accurate affordable rifles.....

This is what I'm looking at:
http://www.ozscopes.com.au/nikon-monarc ... scope.html

No more funds available for shooting for awhile though.

Seems a reasonable price for a 1" tube 4-16x42 scope but what's with the in stock and ships in 6-8 weeks?? I'd have expected an instock item to ship much faster. Have you considered any of the Vortex scopes? Similar price to the Nikon and available much faster. Check this one below as a guide to what's available in that price range and I'd prefer 50mm over 42mm objective especially if spot lighting.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/crossfire-II-4-16x50-ao-riflescope-with-dead-hold-bdc-reticle/reticle

[Lorgar]

Close, but not more.

$1,270 or so on the rifle, $950 on the scope.

[FuzzyM]

I could easily spend what my Savage Axis cost on a decent scope for it.
Damn these accurate affordable rifles.....

This is what I'm looking at:
http://www.ozscopes.com.au/nikon-monarc ... scope.html

No more funds available for shooting for awhile though.

Seems a reasonable price for a 1" tube 4-16x42 scope but what's with the in stock and ships in 6-8 weeks?? I'd have expected an instock item to ship much faster. Have you considered any of the Vortex scopes? Similar price to the Nikon and available much faster. Check this one below as a guide to what's available in that price range and I'd prefer 50mm over 42mm objective especially if spot lighting.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/crossfire-II-4-16x50-ao-riflescope-with-dead-hold-bdc-reticle/reticle

Had looked at the vortexes, they were on my shortlist.
It has been awhile since I looked at scopes, spent the last of my shooting money for awhile on a 303 and a leupold to adorn it.
I think I liked the idea of side focus on the Nikon.
Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to step up to 50mm O/L.
Yeah, 6-8 weeks isn't really most people's idea of available.......

[Sam45]

My Tikka .308 cost $1450 has a Leupold VX-R 4-12 X40 Cost $780. I think the price was wrong on the website as a couple of weeks later it was $980

My new Tikka hunter .223 should arrive Friday from Melbourne cost $1285 and has a Leupold VX-R 3-9 X40 cost $790

Both rifles are Stainless and have the Med Warne Rings. Should see me and my kids get some darn good use out of them that's for sure. Now just waiting on the new 4WD to get out there and have some fun

[Gwion]

Just ordered a scope that is worth more than my rifle. By the time it's in use and i have a new barrel on the Howa, it will be about the same price with mounts and such.

Scope i have has been fine thus far, but changing the way i use this rifle so an upgrade was in order.

Hope it's worth it!

[bigfellascott]

Why are you swapping the barrel out G?

[RDobber]

$800 to $1000 is the ceiling for me, and depending on what you're shooting you may not need anything that expensive. $400 - $500 still buys a perfectly good scope for a lot of applications.

I'm no expert on extreme range shooting but that's perhaps the only place to spend more on a scope? (Brett?)

There are so many fantastic scopes for a grand or a bit under if you can specifically say why you need anything more I think your wasting your money a bit.

I've used the higher end Bushnell and Leupold around that price point out to 600m and have no complaints at that distance with them.

[Gwion]

Why are you swapping the barrel out G?

Putting the short barrel on a left hand Zastava action in a wildcat chambering, swapping for a 7mm08 to use for deer (and other medium game) and a bit of club level f-class.

The right hand action isn't working for my left hand shooting in pest control but will be fine for prone f-class and the one shot type medium game hunting.

Should all be ready by July, i hope.

[Monty]

Should all be ready by July, i hope.

[bigfellascott]

Why are you swapping the barrel out G?

Putting the short barrel on a left hand Zastava action in a wildcat chambering, swapping for a 7mm08 to use for deer (and other medium game) and a bit of club level f-class.

The right hand action isn't working for my left hand shooting in pest control but will be fine for prone f-class and the one shot type medium game hunting.

Should all be ready by July, i hope.

Ah roger that, it must be hard shooting that way I would imagine.

[Farmjer]

It does look ass backwards shooting a right hand bolt action lefty.

[Gwion]

Scott and Farmjer.

Yeah, it's just annoyingly slow to cycle and there's no way to do it without losing sight picture so that makes it even slower in practical terms.

[bigfellascott]

Scott and Farmjer.

Yeah, it's just annoyingly slow to cycle and there's no way to do it without losing sight picture so that makes it even slower in practical terms.

Yes I don't reckon I'd like to shoot like that all the time, it would drive me nuts to have to do it too. I'd just buy a lefty and be done with it.

[brett1868]

I solved the left / right hand issue by buying my boy a lever action 22LR which he hasn't seen yet (will be a surprise when I take him on his first hunt). Toying with the idea of teaching him to shoot right handed from the get go so he won't know any different when he gets older.

[Gwion]

Yep. The T-bolt 22lr in left hand is very quick and quite nice to shoot. Just need the centerfire version for longer shots.

Toyed with the idea of a lever but i just like the bolt action. Simple and easy for a nonce like me to understand when it comes to maintenance.

[Gwion]

I solved the left / right hand issue by buying my boy a lever action 22LR which he hasn't seen yet (will be a surprise when I take him on his first hunt). Toying with the idea of teaching him to shoot right handed from the get go so he won't know any different when he gets older.

If his eyes are right dominant, that's probably the best way to go.

I'm a righty, but my left eye sees better and it didn't take long to learn to shoot lefty with some proficiency.

[FuzzyM]

I am cross eye dominant, I shoot right handed as I didn't realise my left eye was dominant until last year.
I am lazy so I buy right handed rifles and shoot right handed.
I can get a slightly more comfortable sight picture with my left eye, but not drastically so.

[North East]

I solved the left / right hand issue by buying my boy a lever action 22LR which he hasn't seen yet (will be a surprise when I take him on his first hunt). Toying with the idea of teaching him to shoot right handed from the get go so he won't know any different when he gets older.

If his eyes are right dominant, that's probably the best way to go.

I'm a righty, but my left eye sees better and it didn't take long to learn to shoot lefty with some proficiency.

I've always shot left handed although I am right hand dominant. I kick a football with my right foot, everything is done with my right hand except for shooting. I like it that way.

[brett1868]

I've always shot left handed although I am right hand dominant. I kick a football with my right foot, everything is done with my right hand except for shooting. I like it that way.

Interesting, when you started shooting did you start right handed then found left more comfortable? I'm hoping my left handed boy can be comfortable shooting right handed as buy rifles will be a much simpler process.

[brett1868]

I've always shot left handed although I am right hand dominant. I kick a football with my right foot, everything is done with my right hand except for shooting. I like it that way.

Interesting, when you started shooting did you start right handed then found left more comfortable? I'm hoping my left handed boy can be comfortable shooting right handed as buy rifles will be a much simpler process.

[North East]

I've always shot left handed although I am right hand dominant. I kick a football with my right foot, everything is done with my right hand except for shooting. I like it that way.

Interesting, when you started shooting did you start right handed then found left more comfortable? I'm hoping my left handed boy can be comfortable shooting right handed as buy rifles will be a much simpler process.

I started shooting when I was about 16 years old....about 40 years ago! For some unbeknown reason I also prefer shooting left hand. In the late 70's just after the Vietnam war I was in the ADF trying to shoot an SLR right hand....it simply did not work. From that time on they let me shoot the right hand action rifle left handed....just had to put up with shells ejecting across my face. Ever since then I have purchased left hand action rifles....even though I do everything else right handed.

If your son is more comfortable shooting left hand....let him. Plenty of left hand action rifles available these days.

[Norton]

Yeah, it's just annoyingly slow to cycle and there's no way to do it without losing sight picture so that makes it even slower in practical terms.

Ever tried a straight pull option?

[Gwion]

Yeah, it's just annoyingly slow to cycle and there's no way to do it without losing sight picture so that makes it even slower in practical terms.

Ever tried a straight pull option?

Yep. I've got a Browning T-bolt left hand straight pull. I like it and it shoots pretty good. Quick to cycle.

[Xerox]

How does a right hand straight-pull go for a leftie?

Workable or would you be hitting your face all the time?

[Gwion]

Like anything, you could make it work.

Many lefties shoot cack handed and reach all the way over the scope to cycle the bolt. Too annoying for me and slow and you lose sight picture which means you can't get rapid, reliable shots at multiple targets when pest shooting. Besides, i'm not left handed but shoot left for eyesight reasons, so coordinating all that with my "off" hand is extra annoying!