Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

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Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by keen » 24 Oct 2013, 3:03 pm

Question for those in the know with scope technical stuff...

I've got a basic Bushnell scope that I'm thinking of upgrading.

I've only really used 1" tubes in the past, no scopes with a 30mm tube. I've had a look out the door from my LGS, but that's not much of a test.

I don't know what the technical term is, so a crappy description is forthcoming...

Obviously when you move your head off-centre from a scope, you see the black edges. The further you're zoomed in, the quicker things black out...

Is this less of an issue with a 30mm tube? Is it easier to get a clear image and do you have to move further off-centre to start to see black or have it blackout?

Couldn't really say from a limited test in store, but by the time the lights been bent and magnified and whatever else, is there 'less' black in a 30mm tubed scope versus a 1" tubed scope?

Small gain? or just the same?
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by SendIt » 24 Oct 2013, 8:13 pm

In my experience, no.

I have scopes with 1" and 30mm tubes and at the range there is no difference switching between them.
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by The Brass » 24 Oct 2013, 8:17 pm

From a shooters POV the light is the same IMO.

Perhaps in some lab testing glass for light transmission or some other technical mumbo one is better than the other, but to a shooters eye I say no difference.

A quality 1" tubed scope will out perform a s**t 30mm tube scope any day of the week.
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by ailar » 25 Oct 2013, 7:53 am

SendIt wrote:I have scopes with 1" and 30mm tubes and at the range there is no difference switching between them.


This is my experience too.
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by grainweight » 25 Oct 2013, 11:41 am

Larger scope tube is more about the additional windage and elevation adjustments that they can build into the bigger space.

Not about letting more light through.
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by oohsam » 25 Oct 2013, 2:53 pm

grainweight wrote:Larger scope tube is more about the additional windage and elevation adjustments that they can build into the bigger space.

Not about letting more light through.


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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by keen » 25 Oct 2013, 6:02 pm

oohsam wrote:+1.
grainweight is on the money.


Speaking of +1... What's with the no +1 here? :D
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by Blackened » 25 Oct 2013, 6:06 pm

keen wrote:Speaking of +1... What's with the no +1 here? :D


We toyed with member ranks and voting systems for a while...

While there is some merit to such systems, in the end they tend to cause more trouble than they're worth.
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by Blackened » 25 Oct 2013, 6:09 pm

Regarding the original question of scope tubes...

You can get into all the technical mumbo you like to show which is "better". As said above, some machine somewhere probably gives the 30mm tube the green tick on this for some reason other than range of adjustment...

For practical purposes though, the only time you 'need' one is if you run out of drop/windage on your 1" scope.
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by remnt » 25 Oct 2013, 6:10 pm

Blackened wrote:We toyed with member ranks and voting systems for a while...

While there is some merit to such systems, in the end they tend to cause more trouble than they're worth.


How so?
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by Monty » 25 Oct 2013, 6:22 pm

remnt wrote:How so?


As soon as there is a post count (some) people start posting rubbish to get their post count up.

You get hundreds of posts of "lol" or ":D" and nothing else.

Similarly for rank, people say controversial things and/or conduct ridiculous arguments all for the purpose of getting votes.

Someone with no posts or rank can just as easily post something very helpful as someone with many votes and much rank can post something completely useless or stupid.

In summary, a rank and voting system is not forthcoming :P
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by remnt » 25 Oct 2013, 8:33 pm

Monty wrote:You get hundreds of posts of "lol" or ":D" and nothing else.


I just made one of those :(

Please don't ban me :lol:
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Re: Less blackout with 30mm vs 1" tube scope

Post by Aster » 25 Oct 2013, 8:34 pm

remnt wrote:Please don't ban me :lol:


Tempting, tempting...

Hmm...
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