Lapping scope rings Why and How.

[Chronos]

oh and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fDA1WwgUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTIY9cZlpPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XnvWg7ez-M

Chronos

[<<Genesis93>>]

Apparently having 250 posts makes you an expert and wise elder of this forum

Chronos

So you're one of those are you....with this fantasy in your head where you believe you're more special and have some kind of status?? so sad. Count your facebook 'friends' too?

250 post of quality versus 1700 odd posts of drivel... yeah you win.

You just have more free time perhaps....

Whats the oh and crap? one video show the lapping of the bases... the other lapping both?? fence sitting ? or just confusion
the other is some guy, you'll probably tell me he the world 1000yard champion ....

[Gwion]

So... Even those videos contradict each other.
Wheeler kit also comes with instructions to use the top halves while lapping.

[Gwion]

Not arguing the point, I just don't see how lapping the top half is an issue.

Not that I've lapped a heap, only 4 or 5 but most of those showed a significant amount removed from the tops as well.

[Chronos]

So you're one of those are you....with this fantasy in your head where you believe you're more special and have some kind of status?? so sad. Count your facebook 'friends' too?

250 post of quality versus 1700 odd posts of drivel... yeah you win.

You just have more free time perhaps....

Whats the oh and crap? one video show the lapping of the bases... the other lapping both?? fence sitting ? or just confusion
the other is some guy, you'll probably tell me he the world 1000yard champion ....

yes i'm one of those, I've spent hours writing posts for shooting forums, trying to share stuff I've learned from helpful people in the sport only to have "one of the others" pick it apart without a hint of appreciation for the effort put into it. I've seen abrasive, borderline abusive people come and go on this and other forums, rifle clubs and workplaces. Lots of experience and knowledge but instead of sharing it by writing posts like the OP has here you just drop in and sh1tcan most of it without making any genuine contribution to a thread and then make an argument with anyone who disagree's with your point of view. In a few months you'll have pissed off enough people that every thread you participate in will degrade into an O/T slanging match then you'll get banned

the point of the video's I linked should be clear to you, as it was to Gwion. different techniques, similar results but you'll notice if you bothered to watch them that one guy agrees with your technique.

As for sitting on the fence, i have lapped rings both with the ring caps on and off and i know which way i prefer. I won't bore you with the details but i won't argue for that method either because both can be an improvement in the right situation, in others it can make no difference and that's why it's important to let people decide what they want to do with their rifle.

Chronos

[Homer]

G'Day Fella's,
Chronos, Thank You for your comments!

There is an old saying;
"Never get in an argument with an idiot in public, the onlookers can't tell the difference"!
Here endith my participation in this thread!!!

Doh!
Homer

[<<Genesis93>>]

.....There is an old saying;
"Never get in an argument with an idiot in public, the onlookers can't tell the difference"!
Here endith my participation in this thread!!!

Doh!
Homer

Indeed.....

however, you appeared to have corrupted Mark Twain, who was himself I believe taking a general meaning from a verse of the 'Proverbs' (biblical) in reference to a 'fool' not an idiot - while ultimately you've possibly confused and misquoted the great George Carlin in relation to an 'idiot' (my preferred of the two)...

For the record as well as the use of the correct quote in the future, it goes like this;
(George Carlin)
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

If however you do prefer the Twain version then please;
(Mark Twain)
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

Hope I've clarified that for you

In all seriousness, no need to take the 'no further part' stance, if everyone agreed all the time.... it would be very boring around these parts....

[Rakk]

In all seriousness, no need to take the 'no further part' stance, if everyone agreed all the time.... it would be very boring around these parts....

It's getting the opinions out without turning things into a flame war people have trouble with

[Homer]

G'Day Fella's,

Further to this same thread and rifle etc.................I changed my mind!

I took off the previous NF scope off and fitted a new 5-25 x ATACR second focal plane!

Changed my mind

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Thought I needed a bit more magnification etc.

Doh!
Homer

[Strikey]

That's a big step up in mag from the NXS, Homer, 22 to 25x, How much better is the ATACR than the NXS?

[happyhunter]

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[Homer]

G'Day Fella's,

Thank You Strikey and HH!

Strikey (Ya Cheeky Bugger!), I haven't had a chance to do a side x side comparison but if it helps, they are both very impressive!
I want to put the NXS on my .308, so once I've done this, I can do a bench comparison at dusk etc and have a better idea.

Doh!
Homer

[Rocker]

Nice rig

[Wm.Traynor]

Often wondered about lapping rings. Saw the Kokopelli ad ( http://www.kokopelliproducts.com/kokopelli.html ) on benchrest.com years ago. I suppose the question is, "How much bend in a scope is bad for accuracy?" Or, "Do the rings bend to fit the scope?"

I have no idea. Anyone tried a before and after?

[Homer]

G'Day Fella's,

Wm Traynor, after spending a coupla thousand on a scope, I don't want to find out if IT or the Rings are going to bend!
The way I describe it is;
Lapping the rings is the equivalent of bedding the action. You are allowing the scope to be at rest in the rings, with the least amount of torsional stress being applied to it!

Hope that helps

Doh!
Homer

[Vati]

I suppose the question is, "How much bend in a scope is bad for accuracy?" Or, "Do the rings bend to fit the scope?"

If things are out of alignment the difference will be spread to some extent between the scope rings and mounts.

All I've ever found from mounting scopes is a little blemished paint, no marks to suggest any acute pressure being applied in an undesirable way that would make me feel the need to do this.

2c