How far back can I move the scope for eye relief

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How far back can I move the scope for eye relief

Post by bigpete » 02 Nov 2016, 12:15 pm

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Gday I've put this second hand leupold vari x 3 1.5-5x20mm on my cz 550,only problem is the eye relief is slightly too short at 5x and I have to creep forward on the stock to get a clear picture. How far to the end of the scope can I move it backwards do you think ? The rings are as far back as they go so its the scope that has to move now.
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Post by bladeracer » 02 Nov 2016, 12:33 pm

bigpete wrote:
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Gday I've put this second hand leupold vari x 3 1.5-5x20mm on my cz 550,only problem is the eye relief is slightly too short at 5x and I have to creep forward on the stock to get a clear picture. How far to the end of the scope can I move it backwards do you think ? The rings are as far back as they go so its the scope that has to move now.



Try one of these and some low Weaver rings.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/371744849854
I use these to get the flexibility of a Picatinny rail on dovetailed rimfires.
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Post by bigpete » 02 Nov 2016, 12:37 pm

No thanks trying to get the classical look for this rifle :-)
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Post by bladeracer » 02 Nov 2016, 12:44 pm

bigpete wrote:No thanks trying to get the classical look for this rifle :-)



Then I can only suggest a one-piece bridge mount with integral rings - can't get any more classic than that.
But you're likely to still be stuck with the ring positioning.
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Post by bigpete » 02 Nov 2016, 12:48 pm

Do you reckon it would be alright to move the scope right back in the rings ?
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Post by bladeracer » 02 Nov 2016, 12:53 pm

bigpete wrote:Do you reckon it would be alright to move the scope right back in the rings ?



I'm not familiar with the scope so I don't know what the objective lens design is like - maybe just try it and see.
How far do you need to come back?
You could mill away the front half of the ring but even that's only going to give you 10mm or so.
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Post by Oldbloke » 02 Nov 2016, 1:12 pm

To state the obvious, thinner recoil pad or less clothing.
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 02 Nov 2016, 1:26 pm

Coincidentally, I have the same scope, only it's on a M70. The front ring is practically flush with the very front of the tube. I know a pic would be better but posting is not possible at present.

To be honest, I never gave it a second thought when mounting it. Maybe it is the wrong thing to do, long term but so far it's been OK :unknown:
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Post by Gwion » 02 Nov 2016, 1:41 pm

I'd be cautious of clamping too close to the objective lens.

There are rings that will set your scope back....

http://www.opticsplanet.com/nikon-p-series-mount.html
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Post by Gwion » 02 Nov 2016, 1:46 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Coincidentally, I have the same scope, only it's on a M70. The front ring is practically flush with the very front of the tube. I know a pic would be better but posting is not possible at present.

To be honest, I never gave it a second thought when mounting it. Maybe it is the wrong thing to do, long term but so far it's been OK :unknown:
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Maybe if it has been fine with WM's, it is ok. I was just concerned about cracking the front lens. :unknown:
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Post by bladeracer » 02 Nov 2016, 2:22 pm

Gwion wrote:I'd be cautious of clamping too close to the objective lens.

There are rings that will set your scope back....

http://www.opticsplanet.com/nikon-p-series-mount.html



But they still need Weaver rail adapters to fit the dovetail.
I bought some of these to mount a holo sight on the Stoeger Condor rib - they might not destroy the look you're going for.
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Post by bigpete » 02 Nov 2016, 4:40 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Coincidentally, I have the same scope, only it's on a M70. The front ring is practically flush with the very front of the tube. I know a pic would be better but posting is not possible at present.

To be honest, I never gave it a second thought when mounting it. Maybe it is the wrong thing to do, long term but so far it's been OK :unknown:
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OK cool that's what I wanted to try
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Post by bigpete » 02 Nov 2016, 4:41 pm

Gwion wrote:
Wm.Traynor wrote:Coincidentally, I have the same scope, only it's on a M70. The front ring is practically flush with the very front of the tube. I know a pic would be better but posting is not possible at present.

To be honest, I never gave it a second thought when mounting it. Maybe it is the wrong thing to do, long term but so far it's been OK :unknown:
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Maybe if it has been fine with WM's, it is ok. I was just concerned about cracking the front lens. :unknown:

That was my concern too
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Post by bigpete » 02 Nov 2016, 4:43 pm

Oldbloke wrote:To state the obvious, thinner recoil pad or less clothing.


I'd have to be naked to have less clothing :-) I may try a thinner pad if I can get the old one of,after all its only a 308
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 02 Nov 2016, 7:29 pm

Gwion wrote:
Wm.Traynor wrote:Coincidentally, I have the same scope, only it's on a M70. The front ring is practically flush with the very front of the tube. I know a pic would be better but posting is not possible at present.

To be honest, I never gave it a second thought when mounting it. Maybe it is the wrong thing to do, long term but so far it's been OK :unknown:
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I was just concerned about cracking the front lens. :unknown:


Oh Christ! Now I'm Worried :? Maybe you should abort mate :unknown:
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Post by Chronos » 02 Nov 2016, 8:36 pm

Oldbloke wrote:To state the obvious, thinner recoil pad or less clothing.



Chop an inch off the butt and fit a new reciol pad :thumbsup:

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Post by Gwion » 03 Nov 2016, 11:21 am

Now there's a solution!
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Post by Oldbloke » 03 Nov 2016, 6:26 pm

Chronos wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:To state the obvious, thinner recoil pad or less clothing.



Chop an inch off the butt and fit a new reciol pad :thumbsup:

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I thought that is what I suggested.
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Post by bigpete » 03 Nov 2016, 7:35 pm

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Here it is in its better position
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Post by Oldbloke » 03 Nov 2016, 8:05 pm

Something is wrong to be in that position.
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Post by Gwion » 04 Nov 2016, 4:25 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
Chronos wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:To state the obvious, thinner recoil pad or less clothing.



Chop an inch off the butt and fit a new reciol pad :thumbsup:

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I thought that is what I suggested.


Must have been lost in translation, OB.
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Post by Oldbloke » 21 Nov 2016, 9:27 am

So Pete, what was the result in the end?
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Post by pomemax » 21 Nov 2016, 12:26 pm

Check your length of pull before you start chopping stocks and changing but pads to determine your personal lop each person may be different Standard length of pull is 13 1/2″. To measure your length of pull you should measure from the pad of your index finger to the inside of your bicep. It is important to make sure your index finger is in the position as if you were shooting the gun (your length of forearm is the factor your after) other than that you may have to go to a longer scope i personally like the way your going I have never been a fan of solid mounts over the bridge just looks wrong TO ME
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