Toz-49 reloading dies

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Toz-49 reloading dies

Post by Jamesb570 » 29 Nov 2018, 8:15 pm

Hi, Inherited my Dad's Toz 49 revolver and am looking to reload. I have a Simplex press and his 7.62 Nagant Simplex dies and while I have spent many days & hours reloading his Toz on a Simplex I am now getting lazy :lol: I have recently acquired a Lee Pro 1000 press (or two) and was wondering if the Lee .310 Cadet dies would do the job in the progressive? I know the Toz needs to be loaded with wadcutters to achieve the gas seal & Bertram .310 brass with an inner reamed thin wall will work in the Toz-49. I also have some factory loaded brass. Will the Lee .310 cadet dies seat a wadcutter projectile? I have only used them to load protruding projies before and don't want to drop $75 on a set of dies to find out they won't load wadcutters! I am not THAT lazy and would just run the Simplex. Any help is appreciated :D
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Re: Toz-49 reloading dies

Post by SillyWetTas » 03 Dec 2018, 12:25 pm

Get some thread adapters and use the simplex dies
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Re: Toz-49 reloading dies

Post by Florey55 » 16 Jun 2019, 9:28 am

I know I'm a bit late in responding to this TOZ 49 topic, but I have just discovered this forum and joined.

Simplex make really good dies for the TOZ 49 , and my other suggestion is - Obtain a Lee M1 Carbine carbide sizing die. The M1 case is identical in width and taper to the 7.62 Nagant Short case - so if you use this die, you won't have to lube the case.
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Post by Florey55 » 16 Jun 2019, 10:03 am

Also, if you feel like parting with the TOZ 49, please reach out to me. Thanks
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Post by gunnnie » 17 Jun 2019, 2:35 pm

As SWT has said, call Natasha at Simplex Reloading & order two 5/8th-7/8th adapters & you'll be good to go.
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Re: Toz-49 reloading dies

Post by M Tonks » 28 May 2021, 7:23 pm

I recently acquired aToz 49 from deceased estate. It came with dies, cases and a few projectiles.
Does anyone know where I can get projectiles for the 49?
Standard 32 projectiles will not do. They must be specifically cast for the 49.
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Re: Toz-49 reloading dies

Post by Oldbloke » 29 May 2021, 4:46 pm

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I'm not up with pistols but have you checked the Lee site for molds? Lots of options/sizes
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Post by bladeracer » 29 May 2021, 5:03 pm

M Tonks wrote:I recently acquired aToz 49 from deceased estate. It came with dies, cases and a few projectiles.
Does anyone know where I can get projectiles for the 49?
Standard 32 projectiles will not do. They must be specifically cast for the 49.
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In 7.62x38R Nagant chambering?
What is special about the bullets?
A quick Google doesn't indicate anything unusual, just a 100gn cast bullet, but it does seem to have some variation in bullet diameter - .301" to .311"?
Have you slugged the bore to determine the required bullet diameter?
Would any of these work?
https://www.castbulletengineering.com.au/products/pistol-moulds/32-cal
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Re: Toz-49 reloading dies

Post by bladeracer » 29 May 2021, 5:08 pm

M Tonks wrote:I recently acquired aToz 49 from deceased estate. It came with dies, cases and a few projectiles.
Does anyone know where I can get projectiles for the 49?
Standard 32 projectiles will not do. They must be specifically cast for the 49.
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There is a Nagant Revolver group on Facebook that might have useful information.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/135994925108
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Re: Toz-49 reloading dies

Post by geoffm » 23 Apr 2022, 6:30 am

Re Toz 49 projectiles

I've found the 98 gn button-nose wadcutters from Black Widow work very well -- BUT they're .314" so I run them through a .311" sizing die first. The Toz 49 is a pain to load for but a delight to shoot, so I figure the extra step is worth it. The sizing die was relatively cheap, a bit over $30 as I recall, but that was a few years ago. The coating on the Black Widow projectiles is good so no extra lubrication is need to run them through the sizing die.
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Post by Florey55 » 29 Apr 2022, 10:08 am

Geoffm, you don't need to resize projectiles down to .311 for a TOZ 49. It'll work just fine with .314.

And I don't understand why you think it's a pain to load 7.62 Nagant Short - it's exactly the same as loading for a 32 S&W L handgun
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