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Looking For 30 cal pills

Post by bigpete » 16 Oct 2024, 9:48 am

Gday,I'm on the hunt for some of these if anyone has any to spare ? Cheers
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Post by bladeracer » 16 Oct 2024, 11:16 am

Projectile Warehouse is now part of Scoped Out. They show the 85gn RN in stock. I can't find a flat point so I think Cleaver have used the wrong picture.
https://www.scopedout.com.au/Sierra-308-85-gr-Round-Nose-SportsMaster-100-Pack
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Post by bigpete » 16 Oct 2024, 11:59 am

bladeracer wrote:Projectile Warehouse is now part of Scoped Out. They show the 85gn RN in stock. I can't find a flat point so I think Cleaver have used the wrong picture.
https://www.scopedout.com.au/Sierra-308-85-gr-Round-Nose-SportsMaster-100-Pack

Cheers for that. I find the new website irritating so hadn't looked.
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Post by Oldbloke » 17 Oct 2024, 12:53 pm

Can I ask the intended use/purpose?
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Post by bigpete » 17 Oct 2024, 2:08 pm

Yes
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Post by deye243 » 17 Oct 2024, 6:25 pm

bigpete wrote:Yes

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Post by bladeracer » 17 Oct 2024, 6:39 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Can I ask the intended use/purpose?


A pistol bullet I would assume he wants to make subsonic loads.
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Post by bigpete » 17 Oct 2024, 7:28 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Can I ask the intended use/purpose?


A pistol bullet I would assume he wants to make subsonic loads.


Nope
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Post by bladeracer » 17 Oct 2024, 8:06 pm

bigpete wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Can I ask the intended use/purpose?


A pistol bullet I would assume he wants to make subsonic loads.


Nope


Okay, then now you've got me curious as well :-)
These light pistol bullets also make terrific speed in the larger cartridges, 3500+ in the .30-cals.
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Post by bigpete » 17 Oct 2024, 8:11 pm

bladeracer wrote:
bigpete wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Can I ask the intended use/purpose?


A pistol bullet I would assume he wants to make subsonic loads.


Nope


Okay, then now you've got me curious as well :-)
These light pistol bullets also make terrific speed in the larger cartridges, 3500+ in the .30-cals.


Thats more along the lines of my thought process lol
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Post by deye243 » 17 Oct 2024, 8:16 pm

bigpete wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
bigpete wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
A pistol bullet I would assume he wants to make subsonic loads.


Nope


Okay, then now you've got me curious as well :-)
These light pistol bullets also make terrific speed in the larger cartridges, 3500+ in the .30-cals.


Thats more along the lines of my thought process lol

I was thinking paddock pizza it's why I'm buying a 270 a 90g tnt doing 3700fps should blow a fox to the ****** with a frontal shot .
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Post by bigpete » 18 Oct 2024, 7:12 am

Basically going to try to make 2 loads,one just a soft trailboss load for my lad to use,and one a screamer using bm8208. I'm envisaging the soft load to go over 2000fps and the hot load to go 3500fps. Of course that's all theoretical as I've no chronograph available
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Post by deye243 » 18 Oct 2024, 5:48 pm

I used to get over 3300fps in a 30 06 with 110 vmax
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Post by Billo » 18 Oct 2024, 8:43 pm

Sierra 30 Cal .308 Diameter 85gr Round Nose, Hand gun use only, #8005

local shop has 3bxs for $47 each
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Post by Finniss » 18 Oct 2024, 9:52 pm

Doesn't really help much, but with 90gn Xtp I get 970 fps with 5.8gn trail boss and 1840 with 15.5gn which is all I can fit without compressing. 20inch barrel, ADI brass, fed LR primer

I stay a decent way below subsonic as have had a lot of factory subs sneak over the limit in hot weather.
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Post by Finniss » 18 Oct 2024, 9:53 pm

Oh 308win...
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Post by bigpete » 18 Oct 2024, 10:03 pm

Billo wrote:Sierra 30 Cal .308 Diameter 85gr Round Nose, Hand gun use only, #8005

local shop has 3bxs for $47 each


Really !? I might pm you about that
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Post by Oldbloke » 19 Oct 2024, 10:00 am

Many reports out there say 110gr or less are often very inaccurate in 308 cal.

So perhaps check if they will stabilise with yr twist rate before bulk buying.

But I'm sure I'll be told to but out.
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Post by bigpete » 19 Oct 2024, 11:05 am

Oldbloke wrote:Many reports out there say 110gr or less are often very inaccurate in 308 cal.

So perhaps check if they will stabilise with yr twist rate before bulk buying.

But I'm sure I'll be told to but out.


I've already used 87gn pills in a 1 in 10 twist 308 with decent accuracy.
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Post by bladeracer » 19 Oct 2024, 11:28 am

Oldbloke wrote:Many reports out there say 110gr or less are often very inaccurate in 308 cal.

So perhaps check if they will stabilise with your twist rate before bulk buying.

But I'm sure I'll be told to butt out.


I've used the Hornady 86gn ".30 Mauser" RN and the Speer 100gn "Plinker" RN in .30-30 and .30-06, and the 100gn XTP in 7.62x54R and .303, at subsonic and high velocities with accuracy no different to rifle bullets, at least at the close ranges they're likely to be used at (only the 7.62x54R has open sights, the rest have apertures, none are scoped). The very poor BC of these stumpy light bullets makes them less than optimal at longer ranges, they dump velocity very quickly and are significantly effected by wind. The BC of the 86gn is lower than a 40gn .22LR bullet, the 100gn XTP is a bit higher than .22LR. A subsonic load will have similar trajectory (around 200mm drop at 100m from a 50m zero), velocity loss, and wind drift as a subsonic .22LR bullet. Even launching it at 3300fps it's down below 2500fps by 100m, and below 1800fps at 200m.

I didn't find any deformation in the Plinker at subsonic velocities in wood or dirt though, they're very hard. I would use the XTP for live targets in subsonics, if it'll chamber in your rifle. The 110gn ".30 Carbine" FMJ bullet might also be a good choice if you file the nose flat to expose the soft lead.
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Post by bigrich » 19 Oct 2024, 4:58 pm

bigpete wrote:These light pistol bullets also make terrific speed in the larger cartridges, 3500+ in the .30-cals.


Thats more along the lines of my thought process lol[/quote]

158xtp hp in my 358win were spectacular on light game, 180xtp were also good . god only knows what a 35 whelen could do with them ;) i got a mate who'd shoot 32cal pistol bullets out of a 303 . along the same lines as your 30cal idea pete :D
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