Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance reqs?

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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by bladeracer » 04 Jan 2017, 9:10 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:I never said that I want to compete, I said I'd like to have a revolver or two. :thumbsup:



For what purpose though?

If you aren't going to shoot them competitively, and are happy to put your money into firearms you can't actually use, then get a collector's licence.
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Post by No1Mk3 » 05 Jan 2017, 2:25 am

For your information, VICTORIA ONLY, people interested in the history and use of firearms can join a collectors club, and here in Vic, purchase any pre-1947 handgun that fits there declared theme. They can also use that handgun at declared "collectors shoots" appx 4 times per year (that is to say allowed, not compulsory). Some organizations may have more than 4 declared events, but many are "themed" so your own handgun may not meet that theme. Getting a licence is not as easy as some have posted, but not excessive either, but storage is quite tough. Not really hard, but more than just for handgun. Cheers.
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by bigfellascott » 05 Jan 2017, 1:11 pm

Owning a Handgun is one side of firearms use that never really appealed to me for some reason, I guess it because it's not designed for hunting as it were so of no use to me (I can't be fooked with all the range crap so it was never going to happen - I've got a few mates that own em and they seem to enjoy them and we have a pistol club 10mins from home if I ever change my mind but I can't honestly see it happening.
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by on_one_wheel » 05 Jan 2017, 1:28 pm

bladeracer wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:I never said that I want to compete, I said I'd like to have a revolver or two. :thumbsup:



For what purpose though?

If you aren't going to shoot them competitively, and are happy to put your money into firearms you can't actually use, then get a collector's licence.


For a second I thought you were taking the same line as our screwball government with all this justification stuff.
I've got plenty of personal belongings that I have difficulty justifying. Luckily for me I don't need to justify having them to our government. .... yet.

There lays the biggest single problem with the whole pistol licence thing.

What's wrong with owning one purely to smack cans off a fence post on the farm once in a while and also just enjoy it as a peice of functional mechanical artwork ? ... Stupid rules.
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Post by duncan61 » 05 Jan 2017, 3:24 pm

I got where bark was going from the beginning and I would get right into this but it does say at the bottom of the page not to discuss illegal activities.If I join the club and end up with a six shooter in .22 It will not be left behind when I go to the farm.
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by on_one_wheel » 05 Jan 2017, 3:28 pm

duncan61 wrote:I got where bark was going from the beginning and I would get right into this but it does say at the bottom of the page not to discuss illegal activities.If I join the club and end up with a six shooter in .22 It will not be left behind when I go to the farm.


AHH MY EYES !!! :shock: someone help me unsee these filthy words !
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by duncan61 » 05 Jan 2017, 6:01 pm

I hope your jesting.I took some people I knew shooting once and one of them pulled out a home made pistol made for .22 WMR.we had a ball plinking and if you pulled 2 pins out it came apart and was easy as single shot break open.Its a bit different in W.A. as the only place you can discharge a firearm is on private property.For you wise men from the east I would not recommend strapping on a pair of Ruger blackhawks in .357 and wandering through state forests
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by bladeracer » 05 Jan 2017, 8:26 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:For a second I thought you were taking the same line as our screwball government with all this justification stuff.
I've got plenty of personal belongings that I have difficulty justifying. Luckily for me I don't need to justify having them to our government. .... yet.

There lays the biggest single problem with the whole pistol licence thing.

What's wrong with owning one purely to smack cans off a fence post on the farm once in a while and also just enjoy it as a peice of functional mechanical artwork ? ... Stupid rules.



I agree with you, handguns are fun toys. But until it becomes legal again to enjoy them for what they are, we are restricted to only using them on approved handgun ranges, which makes owning them pointless if you aren't interested in competition.
I was never interested in competition, but I was interested in learning to use handguns for practical purposes. IPSC was the only way to do that short of joining the military, and I practiced a lot more and shot a lot more ammo as a civilian than I would've been able to in the military.

IPSC gives you the holster work, reloading and firing on the move, shooting at and from unconventional positions in vehicles and structures, moving and partially-concealed targets and such things. But two important considerations are ignored in IPSC in my opinion. Almost all firing and all reloading should be done from cover, and all movement should be done from cover to cover. And there needs to be greater value placed on hitting your targets while avoiding spraying bullets into the background - every miss should be counted as a penalty. To qualify as "practical", instead of only requiring two holes _in_ a target, it should require only two shots _at_ the target to emphasise accuracy and conservation of ammunition. And I never saw any real world value in spraying bullets at steel poppers until they fall (what situation is that supposed to mimic from reality?).
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by Baz460 » 05 Jan 2017, 9:16 pm

Yeh, just sold my 460 SaW and Ruger Single Six. The Ruger was not so much of a problem as we have an indoor range here in town, but the 460, I had to travel over a couple of hundred klm's round trip to get it ticked off. I was just over it.


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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by spEKTre » 06 Jan 2017, 9:30 am

I've seen literally 100+ quit our club over a decade because it was too onerous to make it to 1 every 6 weeks ( club requirement ) . There seems to be 3 kinds of people who obtain handguns..the ones that just want to have a pistol to own it ( usually self defense is the mind set ) ones that are interested in doing something different and end up liking the sport and the 3rd type which is usually in the handful that compete in comps. I would suggest to anyone who thinks this sport is something to dabble in to go and try something else because it is very onerous on the individual to firstly obtain a handgun and secondly to keep it.
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by bigM » 06 Jan 2017, 10:14 am

Really ?

I guess it depends where you live relative to the club you are a member of (I live 20 minutes away).
Last year I had no problems getting over 50 attendances and I work full time.

In NSW we need 6 attendances if you own 1 (or no) pistols.
8 attendances if you own 2 classes of pistols, which I do.
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Post by Gun-nut » 06 Jan 2017, 10:05 pm

bigM wrote:Really ?

I guess it depends where you live relative to the club you are a member of (I live 20 minutes away).
Last year I had no problems getting over 50 attendances and I work full time.

In NSW we need 6 attendances if you own 1 (or no) pistols.
8 attendances if you own 2 classes of pistols, which I do.


Does the number of required shoots increase with the more handguns you own? Or do they only increase with the more classes of handguns you own?
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by Cryptic » 07 Jan 2017, 9:18 am

Gun-nut wrote:
bigM wrote:Really ?

I guess it depends where you live relative to the club you are a member of (I live 20 minutes away).
Last year I had no problems getting over 50 attendances and I work full time.

In NSW we need 6 attendances if you own 1 (or no) pistols.
8 attendances if you own 2 classes of pistols, which I do.


Does the number of required shoots increase with the more handguns you own? Or do they only increase with the more classes of handguns you own?


In Qld you need 6 attendances if you own 1 pistol or if you have 2 then it is 4 per pistol.
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by bigM » 07 Jan 2017, 9:53 am

bigM wrote:In NSW we need 6 attendances if you own 1 (or no) pistols.
8 attendances if you own 2 classes of pistols, which I do.

Gun-nut wrote:Does the number of required shoots increase with the more handguns you own? Or do they only increase with the more classes of handguns you own?

For NSW only;
There are 3 classes of pistols; air, rimfire and centrefire.
You need a minimum of 6 attendances.
For each class you need 4 attendances.
So if you had pistols in all 3 classes you would need 12 attendances.

The number of pistols you possess in each class do not change anything.

Some states (not NSW) have no attendance requirements if you own no pistols.
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by Gun-nut » 07 Jan 2017, 12:44 pm

Thanks for the reply, I checked the Victorian police website, and they weren't much help. I should probably email them to confirm how it works down here.
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by Wylie27 » 11 Jan 2017, 5:43 am

Bentaz,

That's awesome, you will have fun and it's just another part of the addiction! :)
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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by happyhunter » 11 Jan 2017, 1:26 pm

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Re: Anyone given up pistol license because of attendance req

Post by on_one_wheel » 11 Jan 2017, 2:19 pm

happyhunter wrote:Imagine if the government forced you in other activities like kicking a footy, dirt biking or golf to compete in at least six sanctioned event each year.

:lol:

"It has come to out attention that you have not completed the required number of PGA games for the year.
It is a requirement of your golf license that you attend at least
1 PGA game for every putter
2 PGA games for every Iron
5 PGA games for every driver

We request that you hand in your golf clubs in to a police station as your golf license has been canceled effective immediately.

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