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Post by Rod_outbak » 23 Aug 2018, 10:29 am

Are you sure about the 110 in QLD?

My GPS tells me that the dirt road that I drive to town (B-Class road) is 100.
Pretty sure my last trip up the Torrens Ck road (mixture of bitumen and dirt), I only saw 110 after I turned onto the Flinders Highway, at Torrens Creek.

About the only place I've seen the GPS tell me the limit is 110, is on proper 2-lane highway.
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Post by wanneroo » 23 Aug 2018, 10:39 am

Dumb and stupid and retarded.

It will just put more drivers to sleep and the road toll will go up. The capabilities of cars today are much better than the 1970's in terms of safety and ability.
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Post by Daddybang » 23 Aug 2018, 11:09 am

JimTom wrote:
Daddybang wrote:What a f@#ken dumbarse idea!!!!
I can't speak for down south but up here it'd take a bloody week to get anywhere!! :thumbsdown: :drinks:


Coming from NQ myself mate I know exactly what you mean.
In addition I have driven on some dirt roads that are better than sealed roads. Common sense should prevail, drive to the local conditions.


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Post by Andrew1au » 23 Aug 2018, 3:31 pm

Rod_outbak wrote:Are you sure about the 110 in QLD?

My GPS tells me that the dirt road that I drive to town (B-Class road) is 100.
Pretty sure my last trip up the Torrens Ck road (mixture of bitumen and dirt), I only saw 110 after I turned onto the Flinders Highway, at Torrens Creek.

About the only place I've seen the GPS tell me the limit is 110, is on proper 2-lane highway.


I’m positive. The post states anything without a shoulder. Not just a dirt road. That means even the flinders would be included and basically every road that’s not in town and not on the coast.

Edit: Just encase you haven’t been to the cities, a shoulder is an extra lane. Normally for emergencies and assholes cutting traffic. Because they have too much money, they have to build lanes that people don’t drive on, while we drive around on old cattle tracks.
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 23 Aug 2018, 4:24 pm

Apologies for the digression, but it is a road related digression.

Anybody watched Highway Through Hell?

I can't imagine living somewhere where it's -30° for half the year with semis barreling around on snow and black ice, jacknifing and spearing off the road at 120kph without warning.

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Post by Stix » 23 Aug 2018, 10:53 pm

JimTom wrote:
Daddybang wrote:What a f@#ken dumbarse idea!!!!
I can't speak for down south but up here it'd take a bloody week to get anywhere!! :thumbsdown: :drinks:


Coming from NQ myself mate I know exactly what you mean.
In addition I have driven on some dirt roads that are better than sealed roads. Common sense should prevail, drive to the local conditions.


Yes you're right...common sense should prevail...
However, unfortunately we live in a world where real life experience is all to often set aside for "on paper" experience...so the uni graduate with no life experience who did their phd on 'mva's on rural roads without shoulders', who won the job because of their 'on paper credentials', may well overrule any common sense as we know it.
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Post by doc » 24 Aug 2018, 2:01 pm

Noisydad wrote:They can recommend until they’re blue in face. Given they don’t have enough resources to respond to burglaries or police main highways I can’t see how they can ever hope to police secondary country roads never mind the gravel ones.


Don't worry - they'd throw resources at this. Partly because they'd know it's an easy revenue raiser and the income is outlikely to outweigh the expenditure.

Speeding is one of the easiest money makers to make from fines. It can be done automatic - done at a distance (radar), or can be done in quick succession (speed camera's). Plus with the 25kph over and your license is GONE in Victoria - the risks of driving at around 100kph on rural roads increase significantly.

I sadly see this coming in - not this year, but I do see it passing. Not because it's a good idea or because there's a lot of noise about it - but because there is a tactic that is used now and that's called persistence. It may fail 4 or 5 times - but sooner or later - eventually - if you keep persisting - you get enough drongo's to pass the bill...
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Post by Member-Deleted » 25 Aug 2018, 10:19 pm

Daddybang wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:
Daddybang wrote:What a f@#ken dumbarse idea!!!!
I can't speak for down south but up here it'd take a bloody week to get anywhere!! :thumbsdown: :drinks:


Not to mention it's a lame-arse, cop out way of avoiding their responsibility to maintain, or god forbid, improve our primary transport system.


Yep :thumbsup: :drinks:

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Daddybang wrote:What a f@#ken dumbarse idea!!!!
I can't speak for down south but up here it'd take a bloody week to get anywhere!! :thumbsdown: :drinks:


Its amazing how much distance you can do in a day up in the NT with their higher limits :thumbsup: Here in Vic I got done doing 110 in a 100 on a sunny weekday mid morning no traffic on a good country road. Up there you can average 145 without getting busted :allegedly:


I think the NT has dropped back to 130 (I know they were trialing that speed awhile back) but back when they had the open speed limit it was great :lol:
The roads were some of the best in the country and the roadtoll (per capita) was consistently among the lowest in the country!. Crossing the border from qld the rod would go from a goat track to a highway that ya could quite comfortably sit on that 145-150 mark!! :thumbsup: 8-) :drinks:


The reduction of the speed limits in the Territory was a political move forced on the NT government by the federal labor government at the time, as you correctly stated the road toll was comparatively low, especially when it came to fatalities in zones above 80k.

The majority of fatalities were in the lower speed zones and were alcohol and or not wearing seat belt related, pedestrian fatalities also contributed significantly to the numbers, the claim of reducing fatalities by imposing the lower speed limits was not backed up by the relevant statistics.
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Post by Strangedog » 26 Aug 2018, 8:58 am

Nanny State at it again. Check this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lhCR2b ... ex=35&t=0s
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Post by trekin » 26 Aug 2018, 11:19 am

wanneroo wrote:Dumb and stupid and retarded.

It will just put more drivers to sleep and the road toll will go up. The capabilities of cars today are much better than the 1970's in terms of safety and ability.

Unfortunatly and sadly, as the capabilities of today's cars increase in terms of safety and ability, the capabilities of most of those who opereate them with any sort of safely, or with any ability, decreases.
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Post by Daddybang » 26 Aug 2018, 11:27 am

trekin wrote:
wanneroo wrote:Dumb and stupid and retarded.

It will just put more drivers to sleep and the road toll will go up. The capabilities of cars today are much better than the 1970's in terms of safety and ability.

Unfortunatly and sadly, as the capabilities of today's cars increase in terms of safety and ability, the capabilities of most of those who opereate them with any sort of safely, or with any ability, decreases.


This ^^^^ +1 :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Post by Angel » 27 Aug 2018, 6:38 am

They do realise how BIG this country is right? It aint like Europe where you can cross 7 countries in 6 hours.
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Post by RoginaJack » 27 Aug 2018, 8:37 pm

:lol: The M1 around the Goldie has a 80 limit due to road works but if you can get to 40, boy you're really flying! Most times it a parking lot, road works aside. :lol: :lol:
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Post by Daddybang » 28 Aug 2018, 6:58 am

RoginaJack wrote::lol: The M1 around the Goldie has a 80 limit due to road works but if you can get to 40, boy you're really flying! Most times it a parking lot, road works aside. :lol: :lol:


So nothin has changed in 23 yrs :unknown:
That's about how long its been since I went to the GC and there were sh@tloads of rd works holding everyone up back then :lol: :lol: :drinks:
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Post by Stix » 28 Aug 2018, 7:41 am

trekin wrote:
wanneroo wrote:Dumb and stupid and retarded.

It will just put more drivers to sleep and the road toll will go up. The capabilities of cars today are much better than the 1970's in terms of safety and ability.

Unfortunatly and sadly, as the capabilities of today's cars increase in terms of safety and ability, the capabilities of most of those who opereate them with any sort of safely, or with any ability, decreases.


Yes trekkin you're bang on there...

I am amazed at how many utter fukwit drivers litter the rrural oads today, & surprisingly many of them are truckies......on the outside chance some if them are reading this...TURN YOUR HEAD LIGHTS ON DURING THE DAY...!!!

Unfortunately the better the cars get, more & more people lacking common sense frequent on rural roads...wish could put them in their own sectioned off area along with those stoopid grey numbats n their bludy convoys of caravans that dont allow you to overtake & that litter the countryside...
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Post by RoginaJack » 28 Aug 2018, 4:10 pm

Yep,Daddybang, things have changed - traffic is slower, we have "ramping" at most M1 off ramps now and the Labour Government's proposing to reduce the Highway speed from 110 to 80 to " speed up the traffic flow". :roll:

Same ol same O... :mrgreen:
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Post by Daddybang » 29 Aug 2018, 7:08 am

RoginaJack wrote:Yep,Daddybang, things have changed - traffic is slower, we have "ramping" at most M1 off ramps now and the Labour Government's proposing to reduce the Highway speed from 110 to 80 to " speed up the traffic flow". :roll:

Same ol same O... :mrgreen:


Now that's some logic!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks:
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