"Winching out" by winding a strap around the wheel

[AusC]

Credit where it's due, pretty clever technique to pull yourself out of the stuck without having a winch here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeamZ-GRafc

But alarm bells start gently tingling when I think about the unusual direction of force applied to your suspension assembly as you're doing something that basically equates to having a winch mounted on one wheel.

Asking for trouble?

[AusTac]

Pretty thin line of success/failure, could be deadly/expensive if it all goes wrong..

Not to mention grinding your recovery gear into the dirt, we all know that eventually ends in tears, hospital repair bills if gear isn't looked after

[sandgroperbill]

As long as its done right and the wheel isn't angled I wouldn't think the stress would be too bad.

The way it was done in the video looked like it was done pretty well

Having said that, if more force or pull was needed, then it might get risky, in the video they didn't seem to need too much to get unstuck

[pete1]

I've thought about it as a last resort but yeh gotta agree i will damage your suspension if you put to much force, they have ladder straps so you can put it on both wheels, or you could buy a winch there pretty cheap now days. but when ever winching you gotta be careful and otherwise you will break your car or yourself.

[Oldbloke]

Wishful thinking. Buy a winch or cheap turfer

[Noisydad]

Years ago I had an '82 jackaroo for which I made a capstan drum that bolted on to 3 wheel nuts. A heavy rope was passed through a D shackle attached to the roo bar then anchored. 3 wraps of the rope around the capstan and have the helper pull the loose end tight and the car was out of bogs easy as.

[VICHunter]

As long as its done right and the wheel isn't angled I wouldn't think the stress would be too bad.

The way it was done in the video looked like it was done pretty well

Having said that, if more force or pull was needed, then it might get risky, in the video they didn't seem to need too much to get unstuck

He's basically on the flat there, it looks like he's just running poor tires and has come undone because of a little bit of surface mud. He's barely off-roading really.

Picture the same in a 2.5 tonne cruiser bogged to the rear axles.

[sandgroperbill]

As I said, if more force or pull was needed, it might be risky.

If I was bogged to the axles, I wouldn't want to put that much force on one wheel, i would get out the shovel and find some branches.

BUT...

I have a feroza, being pretty light (as are suzis), this technique could be used to good effect as it wouldn't put too much stress on the wheel or axles.

Or I could just get out and pick it up out of the bog

[Oldbloke]

If you have a small light car one of these will often do the trick.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/I-Max-4-Tonn ... 1408131823

[Seik]

$40 geez.

I'm well aware price isn't everything but you've gotta wonder...

[Seik]

While on the topic, any idea how much distance you cover with each pull of a typical hand winch?

[Oldbloke]

Seik, Its a slow process. Each time you work the winch the car moves about 1 or 2 inches. But they are light, cheap, slow butdo the job for lightwork. They will never replace a decent winch or quality tirfor.

[Die Judicii]

Years ago I had an '82 jackaroo for which I made a capstan drum that bolted on to 3 wheel nuts. A heavy rope was passed through a D shackle attached to the roo bar then anchored. 3 wraps of the rope around the capstan and have the helper pull the loose end tight and the car was out of bogs easy as.

Years ago they were popular in South Africa,,,, and I think Landrover actually made them for their vehicles in that era.

For all you guys that havn't had a lot of experience off road, or in ingenuity, try this ever so simple (and cheap) method.

All you need is good quality rope.
The longer the rope, the more power you have to pull the vehicle.

Simply anchor one end of the rope to the stuck vehicle,, then anchor the other end to a tree or other fixed object.
Pull the rope as tight as possible in a straight line when tying off.

Then go to the 1/2 way mark, grab the rope and pull to the side.
Like I said, the longer the rope, the more power you can exert.

Then it is just a matter of repeating each step till you get the stuck vehicle out far enough from where it was stuck.

I won a case of beer in a bet once doing this.
I dragged an EH Holden station wagon with its hand brake on, and in gear for a distance of 10 meters on a dry grass surface, by myself.

If you don't believe what I'm saying, try it yourself.

[AusTac]

Years ago I had an '82 jackaroo for which I made a capstan drum that bolted on to 3 wheel nuts. A heavy rope was passed through a D shackle attached to the roo bar then anchored. 3 wraps of the rope around the capstan and have the helper pull the loose end tight and the car was out of bogs easy as.

Years ago they were popular in South Africa,,,, and I think Landrover actually made them for their vehicles in that era.

For all you guys that havn't had a lot of experience off road, or in ingenuity, try this ever so simple (and cheap) method.

All you need is good quality rope.
The longer the rope, the more power you have to pull the vehicle.

Simply anchor one end of the rope to the stuck vehicle,, then anchor the other end to a tree or other fixed object.
Pull the rope as tight as possible in a straight line when tying off.

Then go to the 1/2 way mark, grab the rope and pull to the side.
Like I said, the longer the rope, the more power you can exert.

Then it is just a matter of repeating each step till you get the stuck vehicle out far enough from where it was stuck.

I won a case of beer in a bet once doing this.
I dragged an EH Holden station wagon with its hand brake on, and in gear for a distance of 10 meters on a dry grass surface, by myself.

If you don't believe what I'm saying, try it yourself.

So watch just hook up up, and use body weight to move the line to the side?

That seems legit... i shall have to try!

[Die Judicii]

Yep, that's it.
1/2 way along the rope, and pull to the side (either side,) at approx 90 degrees.

More people = more power,

Longer rope = more power

With a really long rope, some nylon ropes will stretch meaning you have to pull a further distance to the side, so good old fashioned hemp rope
is the best to use over a long distance.

[on_one_wheel]

I've seen it done using a chain between the dual rims of a light truck.

[trekin]

Years ago I had an '82 jackaroo for which I made a capstan drum that bolted on to 3 wheel nuts. A heavy rope was passed through a D shackle attached to the roo bar then anchored. 3 wraps of the rope around the capstan and have the helper pull the loose end tight and the car was out of bogs easy as.

Series 1 and 2 Landies had a capstan winch attachment for the wheels as an optional extra from the factory. Also had an attachment for the wheels that allowed you drop into two ropes stretched across a gully which allowed you cross like you were on rails.
Has to be said, that if you are worried about you fourby's suspension being damaged, then you probably have brought the wrong fourby.

[Die Judicii]

Series 1 and 2 Landies had a capstan winch attachment for the wheels as an optional extra from the factory.

There must be an echo, I thought I'd already said that.

[chacka]

You're assuming people read everything in the middle before replying on forums