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Build your ultimate 4WD

Post by south » 15 Sep 2016, 10:39 am

I noticed this section has been updated to included off-road and four-wheel driving :mrgreen:

In the spirit of that, just for fun, what's your ultimate 4WD build?

Whether it's the one you've got (pics? :D) or just one on paper you want.

And we can say Santa is footing the bill so go nuts :thumbsup:
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Post by brett1868 » 15 Sep 2016, 10:59 am

Here's my idea of the perfect 4WD
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 15 Sep 2016, 11:12 am

brett1868 wrote:Here's my idea of the perfect 4WD
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Is that a mog??
You only like it for the magpul decal :lol:

Mogs are the shizz, but too exxy, 300k+?!

...The Iveco Daily 4x4 looks the goods for a go anywhere hunt-mobile, turbo diesel, low-range, chassis, dualcap or single, 3xdiff locks, big wheel/tyre option to go really big... some custom work out back....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Aq3qS4MF-0
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They even come in camo!! :D

or go the boring cruiser/patrol/paj route :unknown:
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Post by brett1868 » 15 Sep 2016, 11:35 am

Yep, a modified Mog. Love it for the reliability, go anywhere and massive ground clearance. The current model starts at 220k from Mercedes Australia or buy ex-military from 30-70k at auction. Just a dream for now unless I win the lottery :)
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Post by on_one_wheel » 15 Sep 2016, 11:55 am

Technically a 8x8 the Oshkosh HEMTT Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck would me my ultimate choice.

Iv'e taken one of these bad boys off road before and I mean propper making my own tracks off road. They can go over some pretty challenging country and obstacles.

You could mount a big flash camper up on the back.

80 kph top speed on the highway as I found that the massive tyres will overheat above that in the warmer months.

"Each HEMTT has an MTU Detroit diesel engine that generates 445hp, along with Allison 4500SP / five-speed automatic transmission and an Oshkosh 55,000 / two-speed transfer case. They have Oshkosh front axles and Dana rear axles, with driver-controlled inter-axle differential locks."

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/oshkosh-hemtt/
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Post by AusTac » 15 Sep 2016, 12:51 pm

Would love one of these puppies to mod and take on mis-adventures had alot of fun in the back of these things, the terrain they can tackle is insane
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Post by AusTac » 15 Sep 2016, 12:52 pm

Iveco daily runs close second :D
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Post by brett1868 » 15 Sep 2016, 12:57 pm

You could mount a big flash camper up on the back.


Bugger the camper....I'll check the box for the missle launcher option along with leather seats :)
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 15 Sep 2016, 1:12 pm

AusTac wrote:Would love one of these puppies to mod and take on mis-adventures had alot of fun in the back of these things, the terrain they can tackle is insane


Yep, I prefer that one, the older 2nd gen??

or old skool cool:
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.theres also the implement carrier type looks a bit odd
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 15 Sep 2016, 1:14 pm

brett1868 wrote:
You could mount a big flash camper up on the back.


Bugger the camper....I'll check the box for the missle launcher option along with leather seats :)


s400 goes well off road... they say :D
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Post by on_one_wheel » 15 Sep 2016, 3:45 pm

Has anyone watched "truck trials" on utube ?

There's some tough 6x6 and 8x8 trucks pushing the limits on there.

I just watched one laying on its side drive out of the situation lol
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Post by Walt68 » 15 Sep 2016, 9:02 pm

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Post by darwindingo » 15 Sep 2016, 10:09 pm

Many good options, BUT............

I'm going to go with this,

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Nothing will stop me from going back to a time that I was able to have semi auto's.........!!!...... I think that's, Check Mate......!!! ?????..... :P

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Post by Die Judicii » 16 Sep 2016, 2:02 am

Some pretty impressive stuff pictured so far.
But if I had the opportunity, I would like to build my own machine.

* Rubber tracked like the Cats that are available commercially
* Diesel V8
* Twin inline 4 or 5 speed manual gearboxes
* A hydraulic ram on each of the four corners vertically for jacking

To marry these type components together with a few other ideas I have would keep me happy.
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Post by AusTac » 16 Sep 2016, 6:18 am

Die Judicii wrote:Some pretty impressive stuff pictured so far.
But if I had the opportunity, I would like to build my own machine.

* Rubber tracked like the Cats that are available commercially
* Diesel V8
* Twin inline 4 or 5 speed manual gearboxes
* A hydraulic ram on each of the four corners vertically for jacking

To marry these type components together with a few other ideas I have would keep me happy.
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That would be chaos in the cab each gear change lol probably better off haveing a 2 stage reduction transfer case

Like the other stuff though :)
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Post by brett1868 » 16 Sep 2016, 10:50 am

Die Judicii wrote:Some pretty impressive stuff pictured so far.
But if I had the opportunity, I would like to build my own machine.

* Rubber tracked like the Cats that are available commercially
* Diesel V8
* Twin inline 4 or 5 speed manual gearboxes
* A hydraulic ram on each of the four corners vertically for jacking

To marry these type components together with a few other ideas I have would keep me happy.
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Already available - Ripsaw EV2 :)

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Check out https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ripsaw+ev2 for some great videos.
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Post by huccl » 16 Sep 2016, 2:29 pm

I get these feeling none of this is even remotely what he was asking about :lol:
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Post by Die Judicii » 17 Sep 2016, 1:59 am

AusTac wrote:
Die Judicii wrote:Some pretty impressive stuff pictured so far.
But if I had the opportunity, I would like to build my own machine.

* Rubber tracked like the Cats that are available commercially
* Diesel V8
* Twin inline 4 or 5 speed manual gearboxes
* A hydraulic ram on each of the four corners vertically for jacking

To marry these type components together with a few other ideas I have would keep me happy.
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That would be chaos in the cab each gear change lol probably better off haveing a 2 stage reduction transfer case

Like the other stuff though :)


Not necessarily, the way I envisage it.

eg: Two 4speed boxes in line.

Put the first one in 1st gear,, then just change the second one through all its gears.
then
Put the first one in 2nd gear,, then change the second one through all its gears again
then repeat etc etc

In effect you end up with a choice of multiple gears,, and rather than having just Hi range and Lo Range (8 speeds) you have much more versatility.

And whatever range suits the terrain, you only really use one gear stick for the majority of the time.
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 17 Sep 2016, 8:23 am

5x5 = 25 ratios.... like a lucky dip choosing the ratio :lol:
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Post by Gamerancher » 17 Sep 2016, 9:19 am

Mack trucks built that gearbox years ago, it's called a QUADBOX. I learnt to drive in one. Two gearsticks, 5 speed on main and 4 speed on compound =20 speed. Take some driving, I doubt there would be any modern "truckies" out there would have any idea how to drive one. You wind up skipping gears as a few of the ratio's overlap, From memory about 200 rpm between gears means a very close-ratio gearbox.
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Post by Die Judicii » 17 Sep 2016, 11:00 pm

Gamerancher wrote:Mack trucks built that gearbox years ago, it's called a QUADBOX. I learnt to drive in one. Two gearsticks, 5 speed on main and 4 speed on compound =20 speed. Take some driving, I doubt there would be any modern "truckies" out there would have any idea how to drive one. You wind up skipping gears as a few of the ratio's overlap, From memory about 200 rpm between gears means a very close-ratio gearbox.


Dead right there Mate,,,
It's just a matter of making your choice, after coming out of rocks,,,, and wanting it to climb trees.
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Post by Lorgar » 19 Sep 2016, 2:46 pm

huccl wrote:I get these feeling none of this is even remotely what he was asking about :lol:


I'll pitch a more realistic one.

As a dedicated tourer / off-roader, if someone else was footing the bill (fuel bill too?) I'd go a LandCruiser 200 in the top trim level. VX or Sahara, whichever one it is.

4.5L V8 Twin Turbo-diesel. Add a snorkel.

Put some 35" tires on.

Have someone build me a manual gearbox for the thing because they only do the 200 in automatic for some reason, which I loathe, and re-do gear ratios to suit wheel diameter increase.

Front and rear lockers (if not standard, can't remember for the 200).

2" lift.

I do like a lot of the ARB stuff, price has a bit of a premium on it but since someone else is paying the bill I'd just give em the car and basically say one of everything....

Deluxe bull bar with winch, and front recovery points. Brush bars and steel side steps. A pair of the AR32 Intensity lights, one spot beam, one flood beam.

Under vehicle protection. Either the 180L long range tank or 122L/55L fuel/water combination tank.

Replacement steel rear-bar with spare carrier and jerry-can holders. Flood light(s) on the back. Recovery hitch, winch cradle and second winch for the rear (or custom build to install one in the rear bar if possible).

Full length touring rack with a Simpson III roof top tent. Brackets/mounts around the rack to hold all the usual jacks, maxtrax etc. And an awning.

High-output on-board compressor with tank. Auxiliary battery. Solar panels, except I CBF setting them up all the time so have someone build me a clever tray that pulls out from under the roof rack or something then slides away, no setup or lugging them around.

I like my boot space so wouldn't want to part with more than a 3rd of it, but have a partition of some sort custom made to take up a side third. Get a draw system in their, chunky fridge, 3000w inverter is the biggest I think they do now... throw one of those in just in case :lol:

Portable hot water if it can be fit in there?

I never tow anything but while they're in there throw in whatever the latest brake controller is.

Uuum. I think that will do, ha.

Realistically I have absolutely no need for that much grunt, it just makes the kid in me drool, lol. The 200 has a hell of a fat ass too, wouldn't want one as the daily driver for the burbs or city but if Santa is bringing me a dedicated tourer I'll live with it :mrgreen:
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Post by Gamerancher » 19 Sep 2016, 3:04 pm

If you want to add all that to a 200 you'd better replace the chassis. Have a look at their GVM, can't carry s**t!
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Post by WayneO » 19 Sep 2016, 3:04 pm

In my humble opinion, the best 4x4 you could ever ask for is a Cruiser 100 VX 4.5 Automatic petrol with a suspension upgrade, 31 BFG MT Tyres, Harrop e-lockers front and rear. Replacemnt front and back bar with twin wheel carriers on the back. 12000lb winch, full protection plates, storage system in rear and 2 x 105Amp batteries of a CTEC dc to dc battery system, rear seat removed and 4 x 50l fridges.
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Post by Wobble » 19 Sep 2016, 4:24 pm

200L of refrigeration :lol:

You doing all the catering our bush, Wayne? :D
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Post by brett1868 » 19 Sep 2016, 10:32 pm

The Ultimate 4x4 eh....No Challenge - Budget rent Land Cruisers from around $140 a day. We all know Rental Cars are magic and capable of feats no ordinary car can achieve :)
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Post by darwindingo » 19 Sep 2016, 11:29 pm

True ! Rentals are Bulletproof.. :twisted: :lol: Don't think I'd buy an ex rental though ! :lol:
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Post by jeebo » 29 Sep 2016, 3:24 pm

brett1868 wrote:The Ultimate 4x4 eh....No Challenge - Budget rent Land Cruisers from around $140 a day. We all know Rental Cars are magic and capable of feats no ordinary car can achieve :)


You mean like crossing terrain no one who has to pay the repair bills for would dare? :lol:
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Post by WayneO » 29 Sep 2016, 3:59 pm

Wobble wrote:200L of refrigeration :lol:

You doing all the catering our bush, Wayne? :D


I like to have cold beer, ice and lots and lots of meat when I travel. I also end up doing most of the cooking because I just love cooking.
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Post by darwindingo » 29 Sep 2016, 10:43 pm

WayneO wrote:
Wobble wrote:200L of refrigeration :lol:

You doing all the catering our bush, Wayne? :D


I like to have cold beer, ice and lots and lots of meat when I travel. I also end up doing most of the cooking because I just love cooking.


So how the hell do you store the meat mate ? I mean we are only talking a 200L space for ice and beer... Well that's got a long weekend sorted for the ice and beer, but what about the meat ? salted I'm guessing ? :lol:

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