Blackened Bonnet for light bar

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Blackened Bonnet for light bar

Post by winton » 15 Dec 2017, 5:24 pm

Guys need some advice.
Am considering putting a 50 inch lightbar that sits slightly above the windshield. My concern is the reflection coming of the white bonnet I have.

Would it be advisable to paint it black? and if so, gloss or matte? Of course I'm going to angle it so that most of the beam skirts over the bonnet, but....

Gloss would definitely be harder wearing and easier to clean, but may still reflect a little light. If its not much that I can live with, I'd rather go gloss, What do you guys think?

Was thinking of just using spray can metal epoxy paint. Anyone tried this themselves? Seem some guys use a vinyl wrap, but I think this is expensive.
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Post by Supaduke » 15 Dec 2017, 6:10 pm

I think you will find that roof mounted Led Bars are technically unroadworthy and illegal in Victoria. A few of my mates have been pinged by overzealous coppers and had to move them.

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety- ... ing-lights
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Post by winton » 15 Dec 2017, 6:23 pm

Supaduke wrote:I think you will find that roof mounted Led Bars are technically unroadworthy and illegal in Victoria. A few of my mates have been pinged by overzealous coppers and had to move them.


thanks for that.

I was told that they aren't road worthy and must not be used on road. When you are off road, you can use them. so they have to be switched off when on a road and need to be tied into the vehicles high beam..

Did your mates have them switched on, on a country road?
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Post by Supaduke » 15 Dec 2017, 6:44 pm

It was during the day. Not turned on. The information they were given was below the bonnet line and rearwards of the furthest point of the bumper ie: not protruding.
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Post by winton » 15 Dec 2017, 7:05 pm

Supaduke wrote:It was during the day. Not turned on. The information they were given was below the bonnet line and rearwards of the furthest point of the bumper ie: not protruding.


well, I guess thats a bummer. I'd probably still like to paint my bonnet black in case the rules change. :D
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Post by Wombat » 15 Dec 2017, 8:10 pm

Supercheap has some peel off paint so you could give it a temporary try,
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Post by pete1 » 16 Dec 2017, 1:13 pm

If your still gunna mount it you can get roof rack rails and mount it anywhere on the roof, just not to far back as it reflects off your mirrors.

Could vinyl rap the bonnet.
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Post by winton » 16 Dec 2017, 3:41 pm

Was thinking about getting some brackets to mount it just above the windshield line. But the legalities have made me think twice. I've a friend who has mounted it there himself, but he hasn't yet been caught.

What cost is vinyl wrap?
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Post by pete1 » 16 Dec 2017, 5:25 pm

winton wrote:Was thinking about getting some brackets to mount it just above the windshield line. But the legalities have made me think twice. I've a friend who has mounted it there himself, but he hasn't yet been caught.

What cost is vinyl wrap?


I've got one on the roof so have my mate none have being caught.
I have driven straight past Mansfield cops, no problems. I think if you act like a d**k they will throw the book at you for every little thing vs just driving behaving and doing the speed limit there will be though no problems.

to get it done might be Like $300 vs DIY might be $100 for a bonnet. Plenty of info on the internet about it, Its pretty tough, they reckon its good for 10+ years and you can just rip it straight off when you sell the car.
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Post by winton » 16 Dec 2017, 6:13 pm

This is what I'm looking at doing

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do you reckon this is over the top? No pun intended.

I'll look into the vinyl wrap. I think it would be a good alternative to painting.
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Post by Supaduke » 16 Dec 2017, 10:37 pm

There is quite a few things which are technically illegal. One that surprised me was go pro cams on your motorcycle helmet.

Most of it comes down to discretion. Some days , some cops can just choose to be a real dick.

I know lots of people mount lights up on the roof. My mates had them up there for ages before being busted. One mate also got done because his rear mud guard (tray back) did not extend past the centre line of his rear wheel. Also had to lower his lift kit. So I guess it's simply up to the individual if they choose to take the chance.
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Post by Homer » 18 Dec 2017, 8:44 am

G'Day Fella's,

Winton, an alternative to painting your bonnet and something I have been doing for years/various 4WD's, is to paint the lower inside surface of your windscreen.
This is cheaper to do and also helps when driving into the setting sun, will not de-value your vehicle, and is easily removed (if required).

All you need to do, is sit in the car as you normally would (both Driver side and Passenger), with a roll of masking tape or a Marker/Texta pen.
It ends up looking like a Truncated Pyramid shape (wider at the bottom, tapered sides, to a narrower top border).
Then mark out where the bonnet and front guards are (Top and sides), on the inside of your windscreen.
Then use masking tape to out line this detail/border, on the Outside of your windscreen.
Next, thoroughly clean the Inside of the windscreen with Metholated Spirits.
Next, mask off the same extent of the border (top, sides and bottom), on the inside of the windscreen, and place news paper on the dash, and the upper portion of the windscreen.
Then open both front doors and using a spray can of Matt Black paint, shake can, and apply paint as per the directions.

This paint job, may require touch up after a few years?

Hope that helps

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Post by winton » 18 Dec 2017, 9:40 am

Supaduke wrote:I know lots of people mount lights up on the roof. My mates had them up there for ages before being busted.


Do the cops give you an order to rectify the issue and is it something you need to bring into vicroads to confirm?

Homer wrote:an alternative to painting your bonnet and something I have been doing for years/various 4WD's, is to paint the lower inside surface of your windscreen.


Isn't obscuring any part of the windshield illegal?
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Post by TRG » 18 Dec 2017, 1:09 pm

Gday you can vinyl wrap your bonnet at most sign shops, if its for light bar defnatley use matt black, cost on average is $200.
$100 material $100 labour. Im a vehicle wrapper based in WA. Dont buy the s**t material from supacrap or local auto store they will perish with in 2 yrs and a night mare to remove as they are all Chinese product. Only use or insist on installer these materials 3M, Avery, Sott or Calon Vinyl films these will give you excellent durability 7 - 10 yrs and remove from the car perfectly.
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Post by Supaduke » 18 Dec 2017, 1:13 pm

winton wrote:
Supaduke wrote:I know lots of people mount lights up on the roof. My mates had them up there for ages before being busted.


Do the cops give you an order to rectify the issue and is it something you need to bring into vicroads to confirm?

Homer wrote:an alternative to painting your bonnet and something I have been doing for years/various 4WD's, is to paint the lower inside surface of your windscreen.


Isn't obscuring any part of the windshield illegal?


Yes, they were canaries, yes obstructing your view out of the windscreen is technically illegal.

I know truckies that have been harassed for having stainless steel stone deflectors instead of the see through plastic ones on their bonnet.

The way the law is written though it's very discretionary. You can go years with no problem. Get a cop having a bad day or run in to a blitz checkpoint targeting a certain issue and you may find yourself in trouble.

My mates that got busted were on the way into a state forest for a day of 4wding. The cops had set up a check point at one of the main entrance points. They were going through anyone and anything . Bikes , fourbies , everyone. Lot of trailbike riders getting done that day too
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Post by winton » 18 Dec 2017, 4:09 pm

TRG wrote:Only use or insist on installer these materials 3M, Avery, Sott or Calon Vinyl films these will give you excellent durability 7 - 10 yrs and remove from the car perfectly.


I'll ask about that.

Was told that carbon fibre wasn't in fashion anymore. Matte Black is the way to go.

Supaduke wrote:[My mates that got busted were on the way into a state forest for a day of 4wding. The cops had set up a check point at one of the main entrance points. They were going through anyone and anything


My only use for the lightbar is to drive to my hunts and that would be early in the morning and would probably miss all them checkpoints.

however, I reckon I am leaning towards getting it mounted on the bull bar (when I get one) since getting ticketed by the cops can be super inconvenient, especially when you're carrying firearms. .
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Re: Blackened Bonnet for light bar

Post by winton » 20 Dec 2017, 10:21 am

TRG wrote:Gday you can vinyl wrap your bonnet at most sign shops, if its for light bar defnatley use matt black, cost on average is $200.
$100 material $100 labour.


I've decided on vinyl wrapping my car bonnet. Thanks TRG.
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Post by TRG » 20 Dec 2017, 11:51 am

Gday Winton.
Cool mate just get them to use good materials and you'll have no issues.
Carbon is not really the flavour of the month any more but i still really love it. I also ride Ktm 1290 super duke and it has so much real carbon on it matches my vehicle sort of, haha!
HAVE GREAT XMAS stay safe shootin look after ya buddies.
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