CAVEMAN wrote:If you haven't seen a jetboil, you need to look them up best thing since sliced bread for boiling and cooking meal pouches up.
TassieTiger wrote:If your target place is 6 hours walk - it’s nice to be able to take 5 for a quick coffee without building a fire - and then the guilt of making sure it’s fully out before moving on...could take an hour to mess about or 7 mins with one of those special sticks and leaves turbo boilers...
bigfellascott wrote:I've seen one of those in action and they work very well, simple technology and it works, what's not to like other than the price some of em go for.
TassieTiger wrote:Another angle for thought.
Ferment some water, nutrients, sugar and yeast in a 20L drum for about 4 weeks watch the S gravity fall to below 1 - keep at approx 24%.
Take THAT liquid with you into the bush and light a big fire.
Place a steel drum over fire with a large copper dome to catch vapor.
Pour in liquid to drum and slowly bring to 79 degrees and catch steam in dome.
Pump cold water over dome to turn steam back into liquid.
After approx 4 hours, take that 1 litre of liquid and use it in alcohol burner to boil your water for a cuppa.
Solved.
TassieTiger wrote:Good ole TPW, run through a tuned boka = best I saw was 94.5% abv. Couldn’t ever quite get azetrope with my set up, but the liquid was the most crystal clear anything I’ve ever seen.
Mr popcorn Sutton if I recall - isn’t that a bloody story lol
Bruiser64 wrote:You can use an alcohol stove in an alpine environment. I have a Trangia which I have owned for nearly 30 years. The trick with them is to warm the filled burner up by having it close to your body. Trangia burners have a lid that you screw on to close, so there’s no risk of spillage. Otherwise you would look to use a liquid fuel stove like an MSR Whisperlite. I also own one of them. They work well, but are a bit more fiddling about to use than the Trangia. As I live in WA, there is zero ability to camp in an Alpine environment here, which is why I mainly use the Trangia these days.
albat wrote:I reckon for the little bit of weight you save it's not worth stuffing around. Go the gas,
winton wrote:Bruiser64 wrote:You can use an alcohol stove in an alpine environment. I have a Trangia which I have owned for nearly 30 years. The trick with them is to warm the filled burner up by having it close to your body. Trangia burners have a lid that you screw on to close, so there’s no risk of spillage. Otherwise you would look to use a liquid fuel stove like an MSR Whisperlite. I also own one of them. They work well, but are a bit more fiddling about to use than the Trangia. As I live in WA, there is zero ability to camp in an Alpine environment here, which is why I mainly use the Trangia these days.
A trangia brings we back to the good ol days. They are a little big for my own solo use nowadays.
Is the trick you are talking about is to ensure proper priming of the stove?
I use a converted beer can stove now. Was wondering how it would hold up in the Alpine enviro. Hasn't been tested.
Bruiser64 wrote:
I think it is because the alcohol just won’t ignite easily if it is very cold. If you warm up the metho by having the burner next to your body, that addresses that issue.